Provoke Griefing FATE's

[VidulaSaix]

It's possible that it may not be Provoke but that's the only ability I could seem to understand that would cause a boss to peel off a group and go after a completely random player.

Regardless of what the cause was, it needs to be addressed because it really annoyed myself and the rest of my party that it even happened.

[ServerCollaps]

do you even read the other postings? your answer is written down 2 postings above, thread can be closed now

Bosses that randomly target people with spells will run after those people if they try to leave before the fate is finished. Anyone who fate grinded while the lightning fate was going on would've seen the dreadnaught/chaos demon chasing after random people from a mile away.

Player x sees fate boss is almost dead.
Player x sees that another fate is up.
Player x sprints off to do the other fate.
Fate boss happens to target player x with Void Fire II.
Fate boss dashes after player x in order to get in range for the cast.
Fate boss reaches boundary and gets yanked back.

thats it and nothing else

[Ri_ri]

Since we agree that it wasn't Provoke... maybe the person that had aggro simply ran away?

It used to happen a lot in Coerthas. Tank dies/teleports, random caster gets targeted, freaks out, runs away and resets the boss.

[VidulaSaix]

do you even read the other postings? your answer is written down 2 postings above, thread can be closed now

thats it and nothing else

Again, let me thank people like you for your "kind" words. I'll be sure to keep coming back to the forum for months to come so that I can bask in the glow of your wisdom.

I saw the post and while that COULD be the case it wasn't. There were no other FATE's up for one and no one can just -know- when they're about to be targeted.

Since we agree that it wasn't Provoke... maybe the person that had aggro simply ran away?

It used to happen a lot in Coerthas. Tank dies/teleports, random caster gets targeted, freaks out, runs away and resets the boss.

Seeing as I had current aggro, that wasn't the case. Our Party didn't have a Tank and I was putting out enough DPS as Black Mage that she was fixated on me.

Teleportation does pose a potential way of doing this though. It really should be disabled while in battle.

[Sylve]

People wonder why these forums are considered to be awful by the community. People like you are why. I appreciate your post by claiming that this is a "troll thread" but I assure you that it's not and I'd like if you would please take your assumptions elsewhere.

Provoking on Milburgh in the Dark Devices fate most definitely worked because someone came in and grabbed the boss and hauled ass. If people choose to ignore it by claiming that I'm lying then I would prefer they don't post at all.

You can label me any way that you like. Your OP came across as someone trying to start some BS on the forums.
FACT: Provoke does not work on FATE bosses.

Again, let me thank people like you for your "kind" words. I'll be sure to keep coming back to the forum for months to come so that I can bask in the glow of your wisdom.

I saw the post and while that COULD be the case it wasn't. There were no other FATE's up for one and no one can just -know- when they're about to be targeted.

Seeing as I had current aggro, that wasn't the case. Our Party didn't have a Tank and I was putting out enough DPS as Black Mage that she was fixated on me.

Teleportation does pose a potential way of doing this though. It really should be disabled while in battle.

Secondary fact: You cannot just Provoke and run. Provoke puts you at the top of the Enmity list by exactly 1 point. ONE. You would easily have taken hate back by as little as a Thunder tick unless the guy also went into Melee, primed a RoH/Butchers Block, provoked and THEN sprinted away. However, if you were doing enough DPS to 'tank' for a party, you would easily have stolen hate back before the boss had a chance to leave the area.

TL;DR, you're either full of it and trying to start some BS by making false claims, or you experienced a bug and genuinely believe someone used a Skill that cannot be used on FATE bosses.

[ServerCollaps]

Again, let me thank people like you for your "kind" words. I'll be sure to keep coming back to the forum for months to come so that I can bask in the glow of your wisdom.

I saw the post and while that COULD be the case it wasn't. There were no other FATE's up for one and no one can just -know- when they're about to be targeted.



Seeing as I had current aggro, that wasn't the case. Our Party didn't have a Tank and I was putting out enough DPS as Black Mage that she was fixated on me.

Teleportation does pose a potential way of doing this though. It really should be disabled while in battle.

she can target everything in the closer area with her void fire II, ppl standing on the pillars and grinding chocobos or maybe even miners mining in the closer area
its stupid that she sometimes chooses targets, which are like 100 yalms away, but in some cases it happens and then she resets

[VidulaSaix]

You can label me any way that you like. Your OP came across as someone trying to start some BS on the forums.
FACT: Provoke does not work on FATE bosses.




Secondary fact: You cannot just Provoke and run. Provoke puts you at the top of the Enmity list by exactly 1 point. ONE. You would easily have taken hate back by as little as a Thunder tick unless the guy also went into Melee, primed a RoH/Butchers Block, provoked and THEN sprinted away. However, if you were doing enough DPS to 'tank' for a party, you would easily have stolen hate back before the boss had a chance to leave the area.

TL;DR, you're either full of it and trying to start some BS by making false claims, or you experienced a bug and genuinely believe someone used a Skill that cannot be used on FATE bosses.

Please stay out of the topic if all you're going to do is insult me.

[TeaTimeBear]

You can label me any way that you like. Your OP came across...

While we know that provoke doesn't work. I think you're being a bit to hard on the OP she legitimately didn't know what exactly happened, she was wrong but I think many who aren't aware about provoke during fates would assume such. And to make a point her story isn't bull. I myself have experienced the random flipping out run away fate boss glitch during the Lightning events the boss was supposed to move but he was moving way out of the boundaries and doing so repeatedly without stopping much it wasn't chasing anyone either.

[Azoryl]

Please stay out of the topic if all you're going to do is insult me.

You toss out everyone's plausible responses, because you yourself believe it was provoke.

There in lies the problem. It could of been MANY different things, and you will never know until you can reproduce the results.

It was most likely her randomly targeting someone with Void fire... that person running out of range and her moving to get said person. Way down on that list is, I mean at the very bottom, like around the 10000 spot is Provoke.

[Sylve]

While we know that provoke doesn't work. I think you're being a bit to hard on the OP she legitimately didn't know what exactly happened, she was wrong but I think many who aren't aware about provoke during fates would assume such. And to make a point her story isn't bull. I myself have experienced the random flipping out run away fate boss glitch during the Lightning events the boss was supposed to move but he was moving way out of the boundaries and doing so repeatedly without stopping much it wasn't chasing anyone either.

The information put forth in my first post is entirely correct, and while i did not address the reasons why the boss might've suddenly run off, i did eliminate Provoke as a cause. I've seen more than a few troll threads around here that make false claims, and this one looked like just another one of those. I did, in the post you quoted partially, state in the TL;DR that a bug might've cropped up.

The OP certainly didn't help matters early on by effectively telling me that i was wrong.

Provoking on Milburgh in the Dark Devices fate most definitely worked because someone came in and grabbed the boss and hauled ass. If people choose to ignore it by claiming that I'm lying then I would prefer they don't post at all.

Her attitude, and description, looked far too much like a troll to be someone genuinely confused. She never asked if it was possible for players to do that, or that it could of been a bug. she just bluntly stated "Provoke did it, someone griefed"