New Jobs off current Classes!

**ruinedmirage** · 12-27-2013 10:19 AM

I think it would be systematic and fair (and add a lot of variety) if each class had an offshoot job based on each of the three roles, Healer, DPS, and Tank.

They're on the right track with ACN's jobs not being the same role twice. Add a Tank role based on ACN (maybe Time Knight, for the OP's amusement) and we have one class that can completely and fairly split into each role depending on the player's preference. Time Knight based off ACN would need a pet to go with it, however.....

**RhaesDaenys** · 12-27-2013 10:22 AM

**Zedine** · 12-27-2013 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys

I don't see the point of Mystic if CNJ and BLM can both use staffs, maybe im missing something. Can you elaborate? Also GLA has use of Daggers which i always found odd... maybe it will have a thief like job due to it.

**jomoru** · 12-27-2013 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Zedine

First of all this is just a "what if" thread. Basically I want to see how creative the community is by asking, what new jobs do you think can be added with the current existing classes? For example we currently have 1 which is Arcanist that can be Healer and DD as Scholar or Summoner. We mostly expect bard to become a Hybrid and Ranger to be added to Archer, but what about the rest of the classes?

What goes hand in hand with Marauder, Gladiator, Pugilist, Lancer, Thaumaturge, and Conjurer? Kudos if you can make an opposite role like SMN<-> SCH

I'll start us off with a new Job

Time Knight

which is based off of Gladiator, which will also be a Tank/support Hybrid

Support isn't a role in this game. Giving Gladiator another Tank Job is just going to cause headaches.

**RhaesDaenys** · 12-27-2013 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Zedine

I don't see the point of Mystic if CNJ and BLM can both use staffs, maybe im missing something. Can you elaborate? Also GLA has use of Daggers which i always found odd... maybe it will have a thief like job due to it.

Weapon type has little to do with abilities. The need for another Staff class is so they can use new abilities from 1 to 50. After all, Paladins can use daggers.

Mystic will be a healer from the start like Conjuror.

**Zedine** · 12-27-2013 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys

Weapon type has little to do with abilities. The need for another Staff class is so they can use new abilities from 1 to 50. After all, Paladins can use daggers.

Mystic will be a healer from the start like Conjuror.

Yeah that's what I don't get if its a healer like CNJ and uses the same weapons why a new class and not just make the jobs off from CNJ? Since you didnt state any abilities it seemed like an extra CNJ

Originally Posted by jomoru

Support isn't a role in this game. Giving Gladiator another Tank Job is just going to cause headaches.

Its role is Tanking, with supporting abilities, hence the term Hybrid, and it's not in the game yet but Yoshi said it will be. And how will two tanking classe cause headaches? I see more customization on a role, Tanking.

Originally Posted by Kuwagami

sorry but I'll have to break some thoughts before we get too much non-sense with the game's way of doing :
Redmages can't come from gald because of the sword+shield. Red mages fit better a fencer class (SE announced the fencer back in days btw)

in FF1 and FFXI RDM could use swords and shields. Also daggers and shields, much Like GLD now. But the way i see the game is that every new Job will bring a new class.

example RDM and Fencer, thief and Rogue, Dark Knight and berserker maybe. Who knows. The things is this is a new game, and based with what they did with classes and jobs, like archer going to bard, then anything is possible. So i'm trying to see what ideas you guys have, what you can come up with, not what you can shoot down.

**RhaesDaenys** · 12-27-2013 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Zedine

Yeah that's what I don't get if its a healer like CNJ and uses the same weapons why a new class and not just make the jobs off from CNJ? Since you didnt state any abilities it seemed like an extra CNJ

Because, would 6 jobs using CURE be as interesting? No. A new class that gets a whole new line of heals. Heal over time heals primarily would be Mystics role. Maybe a new type of buff, they could easily get creative with it.

All classes will have two jobs only, as stated by Yoshi pre release.

Edit - Not to mention both Conjuror and Thaumaturge both use two handed staves.

**Zedine** · 12-27-2013 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by RhaesDaenys

Because, would 6 jobs using CURE be as interesting? No. A new class that gets a whole new line of heals. Heal over time heals primarily would be Mystics role. Maybe a new type of buff, they could easily get creative with it.

All classes will have two jobs only, as stated by Yoshi pre release.

Edit - Not to mention both Conjuror and Thaumaturge both use two handed staves.

Then what abilities would it have? Like I said be creative. It's hard to see your vision when you just said "mystic"

**jomoru** · 12-27-2013 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Zedine

Yeah that's what I don't get if its a healer like CNJ and uses the same weapons why a new class and not just make the jobs off from CNJ? Since you didnt state any abilities it seemed like an extra CNJ

Its role is Tanking, with supporting abilities, hence the term Hybrid, and it's not in the game yet but Yoshi said it will be. And how will two tanking classe cause headaches? I see more customization on a role, Tanking.
.

Then it should come off of a different class. Its that simple There's no reason for a single class to have two ways to Tank or Dps, or heal or whatever. One will always be seen as superior it will end up fluxated back and forth like specs in WoW.

**ArmorKing** · 12-27-2013 11:10 AM

Current Stuff:
Gladiator > PLD, BLA (Blademaster, DW DPS)
Marauder > WAR, DRK / BST
Pugilist > MNK, PUP
Lancer > DRG, CHK (Choco Knight)
Archer > BRD, RNG / BST
Thaumaturge > BLM, NEC (Necromancer)
Conjurer > WHM, GEO

New Stuff:
Fencer > RDM, BLU
Rogue > THF, DNC
Ronin > SAM, NIN
Musketeer > COR/PIR, GUN (Corsair/Pirate, Gun Mage)

That's my guess anyway. I can go into more details if you like.

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