Gear Choice SCH Post 2.1

[jumpypuppet]

Because 11 SS is completely useless, 11 piety is not, even if you don't have MP problems.

see how you can make a subjective argument for the viability of a given stat? it's almost like i can do the same.

i'll take my spell speed and be happy with it, thanks.

[Taruranto]

see how you can make a subjective argument for the viability of a given stat? it's almost like i can do the same.

i'll take my spell speed and be happy with it, thanks.

It's no really subjective. Unless you are making a SS build (lol) these 11 points in SS aren't going to do anything.

Like it or not, 11 piety is a bunch of MP.

[Ferocious]

How about you both are wrong? Hero's Ring and Astral Ring HQ (melds - Vit IV, quicktongue IV, Savage Aim III's x2, Piety IV) are still BiS for SCH, so the other poster was correct that there's nothing for SCH in these new extreme primals. But as for piety vs. spell speed argument, piety is the clear winner for WHM. For SCH, it really doesn't matter. They're both about the same (lowest tier). Piety was a slight winner pre-patch, but now that spell speed effects your pet as well, it's not completely worthless. Mana shouldn't be a problem for SCH in any situation, period. I don't even have energy drain on my hotbar. I always use my aetherflow stacks and hit it again as soon as it comes off cooldown. The only time I was mana starved when I solo healed Titan HM, but I think it was my mistakes because I have seen even WHMs solo heal it without being mana starved.

[AntonyB]

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Just, no. Yes penta Astral is nice if you need the HP but losing 4 MND is just not worth it UNLESS you need the HP from it instead. Also SS does beat PIE solely because SS has an actual value and PIE does not, PIE is only needed for higher aetherflows where as SS does contribute to GCD(you need TONS of it to make notice tho).


Also, piety is not completely useless, the more PIE you have the more MP you gain back from Aetherflow btw. But yes BiS ring becomes Vortex, you gain DET from it and Spell Speed. Yes SS ain't that great right now tho but 11 DET > 8 DET since you don't really need that PIE. Also Vortex can be easier to obtain for some people.

[Belzeboss9]

So no new bis beside ct boots? I was so excited with my allagan circlet =( I used it less than a day lol Ill stick with vanya hat and crafted accs for now :/

[Ferocious]

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Just, no. I will take 12 CRIT over 4 MND anyday, thank you very much. According to your logic, all pieces with DET are BiS over CRIT pieces because those DET stats equate to 2-5 points of MND. You're talking WHM here. These minor boosts in heals matters for them because they're about pulling big numbers. SCH is all about shielding and CRIT compliments that more than anything.

Our main job is tank healing and those critical hits can save a tank's life over few points of extra HP heals. If your gear piece doesn't have critical hit on it, then I don't consider it BiS. For that reason, I consider vanya hat of healing still the BiS for head piece. Yeah, disagree all you want. Me and many other expert scholars I know give CRIT a priority.

[AntonyB]

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Just NO. 12 Crit is like nothing, yes they gain higher shields off critting but you still need to heal too, your pet still needs to heal aswell which will be effected by DET. No I'm not saying DET is better but the values of the MND & extra stats on the ring will outway the 12 crit you get on it. You need to remember crit is subject to range where as DET is not. Yes you are giving shields to people but you are also healing them too. Dropping main stat for 2ndary stats is just not worth it.

Also lol at saying Vanya head. Some "expert". Your most important stat is MND and then Crit, then Det, then LolSS. The higher your MND is the higher the crit would be, crit only highers the chance to crit, its still your MND that gives you the high heal.

[jumpypuppet]

crit is nice for obvious reasons but if you're prioritizing it over mind you're doing it wrong. i converted my penta astral in favor of the allagan and haven't looked back

[jumpypuppet]

So no new bis beside ct boots? I was so excited with my allagan circlet =( I used it less than a day lol Ill stick with vanya hat and crafted accs for now :/

oh and by the way, you're fine. keep using the circlet.

[CrystalW]

A SCH should definitely focus on Crit. But Crit at all cost is just silly. Your main stat is still MND. But hey, they think they're "experts" so let the experts guide us!... Relying on range to heal, damn you must be so gewd