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    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by jumpypuppet View Post
    why would you trade 4 det and 11 spell speed for 11 lol-piety. on a scholar. who have up to 3 energy drains and an aetherflow per minute
    Because 11 SS is completely useless, 11 piety is not, even if you don't have MP problems.
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    Calyanare Vendaurel
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Eh, I grabbed the Vortex Ring of Healing, since the Allagan one hasn't dropped for our group yet, and it's better than the Darklight ring I was still wearing. Apart from rings, though, yeah, most of the new stuff isn't all that great for us.
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    Azell's Avatar
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    Ashe Nox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    just a tip, dont +1 your book, relic book is a complete garbage, and trust me you can do t5 the same way with +0.
    IF you only play sch, and have nothing else to get with myth, ok, go for it, but its a huge waste of myth.
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    Maki Maki'
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    Faerie
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    Weaver Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Azell View Post
    just a tip, dont +1 your book, relic book is a complete garbage, and trust me you can do t5 the same way with +0.
    IF you only play sch, and have nothing else to get with myth, ok, go for it, but its a huge waste of myth.
    Yeeaahh... that's not true. The magic damage alone makes it the very first upgrade you should get.
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    SulwynCaliope's Avatar
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    Sulwyn Caliope
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    Tonberry
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ufufu View Post
    Yeeaahh... that's not true. The magic damage alone makes it the very first upgrade you should get.
    Exactly. I got a larger boost in heal points through +1-ing my book than through spending tomes for any single piece of gear. Unless you're with a party that has Twintania on farm (which is not likely since you need at least +1 or at least the EM wep to even get this far in coil), you should always +1 your wep.
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    Jumpy Puppet
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    i only didn't see many people mention this but the vortex ring of healing (Garuda EM drop) is our new BiS second ring (hero's still being the first). it trades the PIE on toe allagan ring for spell speed which is desirable assuming you aren't having MP issues (which you shouldn't). someone posted about this earlier but they got the stats wrong (had VIT instead of MND) leading someone to discount it but it's worth getting for sure.
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    Royal Boots from CT are BIS.
    Not really, HQ Spruce pattens are better

    http://xivdb.com/?item/3947/Spruce-Pattens (hq -> Mind +12 , Vit +12 , Piety +7, Critical Hit Rate +16)

    http://xivdb.com/?item/3955/Royal-Shoes


    On top you can put 11 DET on Spruce pattens, CT shoes don't worth the time
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    Last edited by Sygmaelle; 12-25-2013 at 05:10 AM.

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    Jumpy Puppet
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    Not really, HQ Spruce pattens are better

    http://xivdb.com/?item/3947/Spruce-Pattens (hq -> Mind +12 , Vit +12 , Piety +7, Critical Hit Rate +16)

    http://xivdb.com/?item/3955/Royal-Shoes

    On top you can put 11 DET on Spruce pattens, CT shoes don't worth the time
    I think this is somewhat debatable. 3 main stat goes a long way. it's the reason i dropped my astral ring for an i90; i missed out on some exit and vit but MND is so valuable that it outweighed the loss.
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    Miss Wildfire
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Most of the time i90 stuff will win unless you need the HP from melds(T5). People need to remember that crit/det/ss don't have a 1:1 value with MND and MND will always win, hands down.
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    Fierce Agent
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 68
    How about you both are wrong? Hero's Ring and Astral Ring HQ (melds - Vit IV, quicktongue IV, Savage Aim III's x2, Piety IV) are still BiS for SCH, so the other poster was correct that there's nothing for SCH in these new extreme primals. But as for piety vs. spell speed argument, piety is the clear winner for WHM. For SCH, it really doesn't matter. They're both about the same (lowest tier). Piety was a slight winner pre-patch, but now that spell speed effects your pet as well, it's not completely worthless. Mana shouldn't be a problem for SCH in any situation, period. I don't even have energy drain on my hotbar. I always use my aetherflow stacks and hit it again as soon as it comes off cooldown. The only time I was mana starved when I solo healed Titan HM, but I think it was my mistakes because I have seen even WHMs solo heal it without being mana starved.
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