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  1. #21
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    Marishi-Ten's Avatar
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    Marishi Ten
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    Diabolos
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    So wait, the issue is that your weapon isn't i90?

    That's actually a legitimate thing for certain classes.

    Gear comes later, but as BLM you should want to upgrade to zenith right away, if you want to be wanted more aggressively in end(ish) content.

    Side question, whats your average ilv? 70 average is quite dandy for coil t4 or lower, and 75 for almost anything else.
    It's just a shame to see the community gating itself. The root problem isn't so much with the gear as it is with the players. It's sad to see shouts TWO days after 2.1 released "LFM Garuda EX. ilvl85 or above. Experience required. If you don't have Zenith and made it past <insert phase here>, don't join and if you die more than x times, I'll kick you from party". Bear in mind this is two days after the patch released. Are people that desperate to clear content that they don't want help others learn? Let's say their shout works (which it doesn't. They can't get the people together because everyone things it's a gigantic joke and know they will probably wipe because they can't hold it together and rage quit), what would they be doing after they got their clears? Sitting in Mor Dhona crying about being bored and having nothing to do.

    How can players get experience when no one will let them in without it? Their own circular logic only hurts them by asking for such stringent requirements.

    I personally believe in paying it forward. If I had the choice between an undergeared player that's willing to learn, listens, and has a positive mindset versus a geared player who's arrogant and takes constructive criticism as a personal insult and rage quit after one wipe, I would take the former. The latter is free to make their own FC and stop shouting (or quit, I'm not picky).

    This asinine mentality that our "Elitist/Hardcore" players have is hurting the community, new players, and most ironically, themselves.

    This isn't a stab at anyone on the Forums or anyone specifically, it's just a request to treat everyone with patience and respect (as it costs nothing to be a decent human being) and in turn they will be treated the same.
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  2. #22
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    So wait, the issue is that your weapon isn't i90?

    That's actually a legitimate thing for certain classes.

    Gear comes later, but as BLM you should want to upgrade to zenith right away, if you want to be wanted more aggressively in end(ish) content.

    Side question, whats your average ilv? 70 average is quite dandy for coil t4 or lower, and 75 for almost anything else.
    You misread his post.

    His BLM is working on Titan HM for the relic. Which means it's the classic "you need a relic to do the relic quest" situation. And that, is not legit.

    He also said full DL + Garuda (supposedly that means Garuda weapon), so his iLv will be about 70.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  3. #23
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    Azran Hayat
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    Now this is a carefully guarded trade secret, so listen up. Make your own group, and all those restrictions magically disappear. Sounds crazy I know, but it actually works.
    He wants to be in a full i90 group, not in a group with people on his level
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  4. #24
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    Ecks007's Avatar
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    Ecks Grimoirath
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    My fc is small with mostly new players, and trying to get anything done is impossible.

    Want titan? Pay or ilvl90 (including weapon) and no blm/smn, melee dps only
    Want coil? Pay or ilvl90 (blocked by above) and be experienced
    Want Tower? Pay or ilvl90 and experienced players only
    Want EX primals? Pay or ilvl90 AND experienced only
    Want Ultima? Pay or ilvl90 and experienced only
    Want Mog? Pay or ilvl90 and experienced only
    Want PS or HM dungeons? ilvl90 and experienced
    Want and endgame fc? ilvl90 and experienced in endgame only

    and the best one

    Want AK/WP? ilvl90 only

    All within 1 day of 2.1

    No wonder mmo populations go stagnant. lol
    That's ridiculous. I've been using the Duty Finder and doing Duty Roulette just bout every day since the patch and have had about 90% success rate at completing dungeons and other instances with absolute strangers. I've even had some people that played like noobs to some extent and we still managed to beat the HM dungeons (they really aren't that hard).

    My main, Smn, is only ilvl 84 (though all but 4 pieces of gear aren't i90) and I have no problems going for any of the new stuff. And I usually use DR with my Whm which is only like i72 or something and some of the time I carry the whole party. You are being unrealistic. And besides, CT 2/3 of your alliance you have no control over as far as what they wear. Restrictions are fairly pointless for CT anyway as it isn't that hard either.
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  5. #25
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    Erika Indira
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 75
    cuz people on your server suck
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  6. #26
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Marishi-Ten View Post
    It's just a shame to see the community gating itself. The root problem isn't so much with the gear as it is with the players. It's sad to see shouts TWO days after 2.1 released "LFM Garuda EX. ilvl85 or above. Experience required. If you don't have Zenith and made it past <insert phase here>, don't join and if you die more than x times, I'll kick you from party". Bear in mind this is two days after the patch released.
    My favorite thus far was "LFM Garuda EX. Must know the fight and have cleared it before. I'll be checking to see if you can queue for Titan EX, so don't lie."
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  7. #27
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    Sogi's Avatar
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    Jodi Grimm
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    hmmm, 10 /char
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  8. #28
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    Wonkybits Bismarck
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    The issue is everyone seems to be in a hurry up mode or just want to be able to faceroll the keyboard and win because they are so overgeared. Nobody wants a challenge, you are expected to know every mechanic of a fight even if you have never been in it. People have unrealistic expectations, never ran into this issue with 1.x nor in any other MMO I have played. Never was I expected to watch a video or read a guide before doing something, only time it was ever needed was if I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong.
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  9. #29
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    You do realize many people are looking to farm Garuda ex for ring or rare drops, which is why they insist on people who have killed before. When people feel like they have content on farm and are just looking for drops it makes sense to form groups capable of farming.

    There's nothing wrong with people setting group objectives and rules, make your own groups if you don't like that. Everyone learned at some point in appropriate groups so go wild, find some people also learning and have fun. Does everyone who wants to farm WP also jerks for asking for people and jobs which are capable of a farm? Because that's still what I see the most in revenant toll shouts.

    Also man having it on farm is not face rolling a keyboard. The ex primals have mechanics that can't be ignored and require the group to do a laundry list of things every time. Don't trivialise their ability because they trivialise content.
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    Last edited by SarcasmMisser; 12-26-2013 at 05:17 PM.

  10. #30
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    Ryios Locke
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 68
    None of this happens for me. I can pug Titan HM, easy, and farm it. I pugged Garuda Ex on 2.1 Day 1 and cleared it on day 2. Pugged Moogle mog and cleared that. I pug CT solo and clear that. Got Titan EM past add phase a couple times, also via pugs.
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