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  1. #21
    Player
    BloodPact's Avatar
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    One item per week is stupid for a multitude of reasons.

    1. People don't roll greed, so items get wasted.
    2. People don't roll need on items they genuinely need because they're looking for a specific slot, perhaps to cure their case of clown disease.
    3. People accidentally roll greed because the game allows this everywhere else without any penalty and end up with items they didn't actually need but can't loot anything else for the week.

    Please fix this. This is beyond stupid and infuriating.
    I disagree. I like this system. A lot more than Coil's. In here you have a real chance at an item you really want, and although it's not guaranteed, during the week if you try enough times you have a lot more possibilities of obtaining it than in Coil. In Coil you have a one time chance at the chest that has your item per week, and then you might have to compete with another player for it. Here you can open that chest as many times as you run the dungeon. On top of this, this is a blessing for those who cried about wanting to still go in after getting their weekly loot to help friends or just rerun cause the dungeon was fun. The only people who'd complain about this are those who want to have all the gear from this instance yesterday, but then, that is precisely why this system was implemented. No need to discuss the obvious fact.
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  2. #22
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    Zorzi's Avatar
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    Xania Zorzi
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    Diabolos
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodPact View Post
    I disagree. I like this system. A lot more than Coil's.
    The problem for me is CT loot is not really worth a lockout. If Coil had CT's lockout system I think less people would be complaining - it would be more appropriate in Coil, imo. I like it better than Coil's too, but what's the point when Coil still exists as is? It's not like you can gear alts in any decent time, and at that point you may as well just leave them in DL.

    I do still think it's stupid simply because of the amount of gear I've seen go to waste. People only lot on body/leg pieces because they're the biggest upgrade/most visible. I've even seen people laughed at for lotting on hands, because why would you "waste" your weekly lot on hands?
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  3. #23
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    Velhart's Avatar
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    Velhart Aurion
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Personally I have never seen an item hit the ground. I have all the jobs leveled but only 2 are full ilvl 90, so if I see a drop I don't have a 90 for and I can greed it I do.
    Funny, because I rarely ever see anything being lot on. It is sad to see gear just drop to the ground because people are too scared to touch it.
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  4. #24
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    Razzle's Avatar
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    Razu Erisu
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    SE removed the fatigue system........................................... and added fatigue system in disguise to any content that matters in the game ( > . >
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  5. #25
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    Teon's Avatar
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    Diamond Lex
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    Ultima
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    Except you don't even need CT to progress, so they undermined their own lock some 4 months before it even came out.
    The original project of all this new content (primals included) was to give a hope to someone out of a coil premade group to join Coil wearing maybe (if lucky getting the loot) even better gear than the player on the core group.
    Sadly, devs forgot the community attitude : not even wearing a full 80 CT gear + 90 primals gear + primal weapon a casual is gonna find a spot kicking out a lower geared one.
    This content is definitively arrived when not needed, lockout surely dig it.

    And like the OP pointed we need just for the sake of it, waiting vanity update. Or maybe it's just bad habit to greed around locking out the loot with some CT gear for your lv5 pally lol


    I lost the count of how many times we asked a loot with a minimal sense (no drop for a class not playing in the group opening the chest) for Coil, and now CT.

    Fix the need when not needed?
    Simple: not just the chest must be coherent with the group composition, but also able to detect the gear owned by the player (regardless if the item is on armoire/retainer) then try again to need it "for the sake of vanity slots , screw the guy needing a gear update"
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    Last edited by Teon; 12-25-2013 at 12:53 AM.

  6. #26
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    Fiosha_Maureiba's Avatar
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    Fiofel Zalalafell
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 1
    It's strange to see #1 happen, e.g. i80 gear just dropping to the floor on a regular basis, even if it's an upgrade to someone and someone has the job leveled... just gets dumped.

    And then people that leave in the middle of a run once the loot they're looking for doesn't drop OR in the case that it does drop, they're gone. And I haven't seen many tanks join a party in progress. This has been... unfortunate.
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  7. #27
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    Teon's Avatar
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    Diamond Lex
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    Ultima
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba View Post
    It's strange to see #1 happen, e.g. i80 gear just dropping to the floor on a regular basis, even if it's an upgrade to someone and someone has the job leveled... just gets dumped.

    And then people that leave in the middle of a run once the loot they're looking for doesn't drop OR in the case that it does drop, they're gone. And I haven't seen many tanks join a party in progress. This has been... unfortunate.
    Would be nice if the leaver , reported, gets a ban because ruining the gameplay of 23 other players. How much better would have been this world, if we had rules and someone taking care of them..
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  8. #28
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    BloodPact's Avatar
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zorzi View Post
    The problem for me is CT loot is not really worth a lockout. If Coil had CT's lockout system I think less people would be complaining - it would be more appropriate in Coil, imo. I like it better than Coil's too, but what's the point when Coil still exists as is? It's not like you can gear alts in any decent time, and at that point you may as well just leave them in DL.

    I do still think it's stupid simply because of the amount of gear I've seen go to waste. People only lot on body/leg pieces because they're the biggest upgrade/most visible. I've even seen people laughed at for lotting on hands, because why would you "waste" your weekly lot on hands?
    Crystal Tower is still very good gear. It has the following purposes:

    1) Upgrade from Darklight for every single player
    2) Best gear for those who are not planning to tackle The Binding Coil of Bahamut and are looking for fillers during the weeks it will take them to obtain the full relic gear set
    3) Best gear for those who have several classes leveled and are in need of gearing subclasses while focusing myths/allagan on their main/mains
    4) For those who care: vanity

    While I do agree it that the restriction could be eased, if lifted, what would be the purpose of Darklight? What's the ilvl req. for Crystal Tower? Isn't it AK/WP/Hard Mode stuff? Can just jump Darklight if so. And we all know saying vanity and Darklight in the same sentence is impossible.
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  9. #29
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    Tupsi's Avatar
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kal-El View Post
    To be honest I like the way the loot system works.
    You like how gear goes to waste that someone could use on one of their many alts that no one else wanted? Really? Back in my day, people loved being able to obtain gear that dropped, not see it fall to the floor because they don't want to risk not being able to lot on something else for a whole week.
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  10. #30
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    Dark Brilliance
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Nothing better than killing last boss, while watching cs your whole PT leave, and you find in your inventory an item you dont even want getting locked for whole week. Amazing system design SE.
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