FFXIV: Different and Unique

[MeowyWowie]

I'm not sad about relic weapons being dethroned, tbh. I found the concept (i.e. create a Dynamis shell and trick people into helping you craft it for yourself) to be terrible; it's WoW legendaries taken to a ridiculous extreme. :/

I self funded my Mandau and Kikoku (quit before completing the latter). But yea, there were some who took advantage of others for relics. Ultimately it was still your choice to "help" them though.

[Quanta]

Wasn't like you were forcing people to come tho you spent all the gil for the glass and let people lot on the gear they want + money drops all you got was the money for the gil you spent trust me you don't wanna know the money i spent on my Aegis shield..... 100+ mils can i add you to my friend list!

I suppose, but it still bothers me the lengths a person had to go to in order to acquire one of those weapons. I wouldn't think it was so bad if I thought that the linkshell's membership was helping the guy get it as a gift, but I can't see that happening very often given the length of time it takes to make one.

[Nilheim]

I really fail to see how FFXIV is unique. It's like people talking about Tanaka's vison lol, there's not even a "Tanaka's vision"...
How is FFXIV unique? because it's so empty and boring? Do leves, craft for 36hrs, do leves, craft for 36hrs, do a quest that makes you walk for one hour so you can watch a cutscene (if you're lucky) and fight a mob that takes 5 swings to die, do leves, do behest, craft... Oh yeah that's real unique, and oh so entertaining. There's so many things to do, I wonder how I haven't had an overdose of FUCKING BORING yet.

To the OP, I see from your sig your classes are all about rank 15. Getting a class to 15 takes about 6hrs if you reaaaaally take your time, so what do you know? I doubt you'd be saying what you're saying if you'd been doing the same shit for over 6 months.

And before anyone talks about how "FFXIV is cool when you play with your friends, duh", maybe you should realize FFXIV ain't exactly the only MMO that allows you to play with other people >.>

[ckb]

You what was awesome about the new expansion.SE: Hey all that gear and stuff we centerd around our 75 cap is about to be useless in a few months! Fuck you everyone who spent their hard time getting relic weapons cause they are gonna suck soon, but you can do another long ass quest to make them better again... that's exactly why i quit XI and never looked back a freaking 80 or 85 cap would have been just fine to make everything people worked for over the past years not seem useless.

Well said, couldn't agree more. I started playing in December of '03 and gave Abyssea a chance until I canceled my account in April. The game has lost the magic for me. If Abyssea had come a lot earlier in the game life I might have been more open to the change but after 8 years of operation that was a horrible business decision. They could have made a high level playground without raising the cap or only 5 more levels at max.

[Firon]

I suppose, but it still bothers me the lengths a person had to go to in order to acquire one of those weapons. I wouldn't think it was so bad if I thought that the linkshell's membership was helping the guy get it as a gift, but I can't see that happening very often given the length of time it takes to make one.

Only if you knew OP the Aegis was or any other weapon i would make them super hard to get also on my PLD/RDM i could solo Shit like the Joyuse NM on pld cause i didn't care how many times it could attack most people had to evade tank it. I could straight tank it even tho it had an 2-5 fold attack phases cause i blocking everything with shield and taking like 30 dmg per hit..

[Kiroh]

I really fail to see how FFXIV is unique. It's like people talking about Tanaka's vison lol, there's not even a "Tanaka's vision"...
How is FFXIV unique? because it's so empty and boring? Do leves, craft for 36hrs, do leves, craft for 36hrs, do a quest that makes you walk for one hour so you can watch a cutscene (if you're lucky) and fight a mob that takes 5 swings to die, do leves, do behest, craft... Oh yeah that's real unique, and oh so entertaining. There's so many things to do, I wonder how I haven't had an overdose of FUCKING BORING yet.

To the OP, I see from your sig your classes are all about rank 15. Getting a class to 15 takes about 6hrs if you reaaaaally take your time, so what do you know? I doubt you'd be saying what you're saying if you'd been doing the same shit for over 6 months.

And before anyone talks about how "FFXIV is cool when you play your friends, duh", maybe you should realize FFXIV ain't exactly the only MMO that allows you to play with other people >.>

But it haz the internetz.

And it haz the levelz.

FFXIV is perfect and can only get better!!!!111!!!1one11

[Firon]

But it haz the internetz.

And it haz the levelz.

FFXIV is perfect and can only get better!!!!111!!!1one11

IDK why that made lol but it did LOLZ

[Quanta]

But it haz the internetz.

And it haz the levelz.

FFXIV is perfect and can only get better!!!!111!!!1one11

BRAWNDO! THE THIRST MUTILATOR!

[Shyd]

That's a good point Shyd. I doubt SE will drop a FF with a number. I have never, in my entire gaming life, seen a company react as quickly, and in the way, that SE did a month after launch, when they sent out those letters and replaced the staff. It was only because of this that I kept an eye on the game and eventually came back after I saw the improvements being made (these forums for one).

On a slight tangent, let me ask you this: I'm a big Final Fantasy fan. I love everything FF, including the movie, BUT because of mere timing and RL, I never played FFXI. I always read positive things about it, but since playing this game, I constantly hear references to FFXI with the fondest of memories; from my LS as well as these forums. Was it really that good? Or is it just nostalgia talking?

I haven't personally played ALL the MMO's out there but from my standpoint, ALOT of them are the same game. Just different models, spells, weapons, etc etc.

But 11 was entirely different. You started your adventure with nothing like normal mmo's. You rank up to like 15-20 solo. Then you have to adventure. Mind you it really is an adventure to the dunes (coming from windurst). You had to travel through like 2.25 zones, last one being through an area of high level goblins that would chase you down and eat you alive. Then you rode on a boat to the dunes. Sometimes it would get attacked by pirates and or sea horror. Which was death, and back to homepoint for the lowbies that got too close.

@R20 you got quests to unlock subjobs, which required you to level up another job along side your 'main' to compliment it with some moves that where basically needed.

@25 or 30 , dont really remember excatly, but thats when you got your chocobo quest. Once you completed that traveling around was easier.

@R30 you would go to Jeuno, the Neutral Town. Basically everyone gathered here to group and what not. From there you would seek for a group to sp with. Around this level on you had basically about half a dozen different leveling spots you could get a group to grind with. This made it a neat adventure.

Mind you all the leveling was done with a group. All other mmo's you solo quest/grind. 11 was different. Past R15 you couldnt productively solo level up. What you could kill would give crap sp.

When you got to 50 you had to do quest to unlock the next 5 ranks. This repeated every 5 levels. Mostly required a group to beat a boss for the quest.

The story quests for the main cities where great alot more indepth then 14's atm. They had bosses you needed groups for, or you had to venture into some scary castle and sneak/invis your way to the top.

From waking up logging on into your mog house then walking outside to the city tword the AH - Mailbox. Or peddling my wares outta the bazzar. Making emotes to get people to buy my stuff.
It always felt like i was my taru in this huge adventure!

ALL THIS with BUNCH OF GOOD FF JOBS made final fantasy 11 extremely memorable and great adventure. I could really go on with all the really great stuff. I would recommend you try to play it but, i think its kind of missing that 'fresh' feeling it had since the sp system got faster and easier to level.

[Blitz0309]

I picked back up ffxi for a few months and loved it.

But now everything either level syncs in qufim... or your do Abyssea.. people getting 30+ levels in a day... sorta pointless. Before i quit i had nearly all jobs to 75 and was proud of that fact. Now thats something that can be done in a few weeks. Maats cap isn't something special, relic weapons are just for show. Meh.. it was fun for a while and worth $10 to play again.

I don't play a MMO just to race to the end. I don't play a MMO so i can stand around and look pretty in exclusive hard to get gear. I play it for enjoyment and a feeling of accomplishment. Whats the point of playing minesweeper if you max the size and have 1 bomb?.. thats sort of what ffxi has become, and what ffxiv has always been.

If you want to be different and unique then make a game worth playing. Yeah, it will be hard. Yes it will be time consuming, but whats the point of having another mmo that you get bored with? Focus on making a world, not a game. You want to make a final fantasy MMO casual friendly then make a effective party system and balance jobs so you don't have to wait for hours to put a party together. You want longevity? Focus on the social aspect so people create bonds with other players and look forward to talking/interacting.

I don't care if it takes me 2 years to cap my job if i have fun doing it. I'd much rather spend forever playing a game with friends than run through and wait to do "end game" just for "look at me" gear. Who gives a damn? A MMO is like life, its about the journey not the end result.

FFXIV is a cookie cutter with a few mods. You can call it different, you can call it whatever you wait. It is nothing but a pile of fail. It came from the roots of a great game, and managed to go and suck more than the easy mode that ffxi is.