FFXIV: Different and Unique

[Kiroh]

You what was awesome about the new expansion.SE: Hey all that gear and stuff we centerd around our 75 cap is about to be useless in a few months! Fuck you everyone who spent their hard time getting relic weapons cause they are gonna suck soon, but you can do another long ass quest to make them better again... that's exactly why i quit XI and never looked back a freaking 80 or 85 cap would have been just fine to make everything people worked for over the past years not seem useless.

1.) Relics were the best weapons in the game for nigh 8 years.

2.) Not Optimal =/= useless (or frankly even bad for that matter, it's not like they nerfed the stats on existing gear, those gearsets are still as good today as they ever were. There are simply better options now.)

3.) You don't give 2 sh!ts about everyone else's gear. The only reason you (or anyone) has a problem with better gear being introduced is because of the time YOU put into YOUR gear. If they nerfed everyone else's XXX Relic and buffed yours, you wouldn't give a single damn about anyone else and their time/effort.

4.) Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING (in the real world or the virtual) ever remains at the very top forever. Things change, better alternatives are created, people move on. The world doesn't stop for you just because you feel cheated that your 8 year old i-pod isn't as good as a brand new i-pod. The same thing applies to your relic gear, no one is entitled to every cent of what they paid back when theirs becomes outdated. If you don't like progress, I suggest you look into Catholicism.

[ckb]

You what was awesome about the new expansion.SE: Hey all that gear and stuff we centerd around our 75 cap is about to be useless in a few months! Fuck you everyone who spent their hard time getting relic weapons cause they are gonna suck soon, but you can do another long ass quest to make them better again... that's exactly why i quit XI and never looked back a freaking 80 or 85 cap would have been just fine to make everything people worked for over the past years not seem useless.

Well said, couldn't agree more. I started playing in December of '03 and gave Abyssea a chance until I canceled my account in April. The game has lost the magic for me. If Abyssea had come a lot earlier in the game life I might have been more open to the change but after 8 years of operation that was a horrible business decision. They could have made a high level playground without raising the cap or only 5 more levels at max.

[Quanta]

Sounds like they chose the absolute worst progression model they could imagine. I mean, the only things I ever wanted from the game were the ability to solo and some rebalancing of the crafting system. It all sounds a little excessive. :/

[Elexia]

In perspective:

Relic Weapons - Powerful (most anyway), takes months to years to complete.
Mythic Weapons - We do not speak of these, but even longer to complete and are same strength, some lesser, some more so than relics.
Empyrean Weapons - Takes a week or two to complete in right conditions and blows away Relic and Mythic weapons.

Most of the Empyrean Gear, known as AFv3, blows away quite a bit of "standard" gear like Sea/Sky/Nyzul and Salvage gear, while you can now upgrade sky gear, Empyrean Gear is significantly better for significantly less work.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Bale_Attire_%2B2_Set

And my Empyrean Weapon (that I chose at least):

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Redemption_%2890%29

Throw in Atmas and stat boosts, yeah pretty much blows away the equivllent Relic weapon and can be done in a week or two given amount of help you have and who has the pops.

So it's really up to your personal preference if you find this good or bad.

[Firon]

In perspective:

Relic Weapons - Powerful (most anyway), takes months to years to complete.
Mythic Weapons - We do not speak of these, but even longer to complete and are same strength, some lesser, some more so than relics.
Empyrean Weapons - Takes a week or two to complete in right conditions and blows away Relic and Mythic weapons.

Most of the Empyrean Gear, known as AFv3, blows away quite a bit of "standard" gear like Sea/Sky/Nyzul and Salvage gear, while you can now upgrade sky gear, Empyrean Gear is significantly better for significantly less work.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Bale_Attire_%2B2_Set

And my Empyrean Weapon (that I chose at least):

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Redemption_%2890%29

Throw in Atmas and stat boosts, yeah pretty much blows away the equivllent Relic weapon and can be done in a week or two given amount of help you have and who has the pops.

So it's really up to your personal preference if you find this good or bad.

yeah that's crazy after that update FF 11 was the first FF game i threw in the trash by choice.... gave my char and account info to my best friend and i am here now...

[Quanta]

I'm not sad about relic weapons being dethroned, tbh. I found the concept (i.e. create a Dynamis shell and trick people into helping you craft it for yourself) to be terrible; it's WoW legendaries taken to a ridiculous extreme. :/

[Firon]

I'm not sad about relic weapons being dethroned, tbh. I found the concept (i.e. create a Dynamis shell and trick people into helping you craft it for yourself) to be terrible; it's WoW legendaries taken to a ridiculous extreme. :/

Wasn't like you were forcing people to come tho you spent all the gil for the glass and let people lot on the gear they want + money drops all you got was the money for the gil you spent trust me you don't wanna know the money i spent on my Aegis shield..... 100+ mils can i add you to my friend list!

[Quanta]

Wasn't like you were forcing people to come tho you spent all the gil for the glass and let people lot on the gear they want + money drops all you got was the money for the gil you spent trust me you don't wanna know the money i spent on my Aegis shield..... 100+ mils can i add you to my friend list!

I suppose, but it still bothers me the lengths a person had to go to in order to acquire one of those weapons. I wouldn't think it was so bad if I thought that the linkshell's membership was helping the guy get it as a gift, but I can't see that happening very often given the length of time it takes to make one.

[Firon]

I suppose, but it still bothers me the lengths a person had to go to in order to acquire one of those weapons. I wouldn't think it was so bad if I thought that the linkshell's membership was helping the guy get it as a gift, but I can't see that happening very often given the length of time it takes to make one.

Only if you knew OP the Aegis was or any other weapon i would make them super hard to get also on my PLD/RDM i could solo Shit like the Joyuse NM on pld cause i didn't care how many times it could attack most people had to evade tank it. I could straight tank it even tho it had an 2-5 fold attack phases cause i blocking everything with shield and taking like 30 dmg per hit..

[MeowyWowie]

I'm not sad about relic weapons being dethroned, tbh. I found the concept (i.e. create a Dynamis shell and trick people into helping you craft it for yourself) to be terrible; it's WoW legendaries taken to a ridiculous extreme. :/

I self funded my Mandau and Kikoku (quit before completing the latter). But yea, there were some who took advantage of others for relics. Ultimately it was still your choice to "help" them though.