3 new dungeons seem over tuned for what they drop

[Tupsi]

You do realise that if the new dungeons were as easy as WP or AK many more people would cry foul right? Just as with WP and AK these will eventually be tuned down.

Considering they simply moved gear from WP and AK to the new ones ontop of reintroducing 1.0 items taken from Cutter's, Aurum and Dark Hold? You could still technically cry foul lol.

[Zfz]

I'm just disappointed they didn't make Haukke HM and CbM HM drop ilv 70 to provide alternatives to those chest+head and leg+feet combo gear. It would have been the perfect opportunity, even if it's just 1 piece of iLv70 right at the end.

[LiadansWhisper]

I really enjoyed Pharos Sirius and Haukke Manor HM. I haven't tried Copperbell yet, but the other two were a lot of fun, even with wipes.

[SarcasmMisser]

I think what people don't realize in regards to pharos sirius is that overgearing the first boss can actually make it harder if your dps are trying to race it. The add spawns are tied to hp% and if you're racing it too many spawn too fast, and people aren't trying to burn adds when they inflict stacks.

It is not a overtuned dungeon, just a rare example of when pushing mechanics makes a fight harder.

Also as someone already said, ilevel requirement isn't meant to be what the difficulty is tuned to. It is a hard lockout on people who have one too many slots undergeared, the idea being that most people have some decent gear but the rest lacking. They're not thinking that everyone should have i55 gear in all slots, they're thinking people with a good weapon and some dl but maybe some AF lingering or some white jewelry is acceptable but needs to be compensated. Ideal gear is probably well above ilevel.

[nostrade]

I really enjoyed Pharos Sirius and Haukke Manor HM. I haven't tried Copperbell yet, but the other two were a lot of fun, even with wipes.

CM is super fun, more like mechanic fight


anyway the new dungeon is awesome because of the challenge, but the loot is not worth it
do not reduce the difficulty, but maybe increase item level by 5 to 65

[razzgrizz3]

these new avg ilv requirements are all over the place. the one on titan hm especialy made me laugh, its 57. 57!!! i wonder if that is even possible to get the heart down with that dps level.
57 when most people will laugh you out if you dont show up with mostly dl (ilv70).

its a bad joke.

[Anima]

Umm, I did both Haukke Manor (HM) and Pharos Sirius using DF as my ilvl 65 tank at the time, and our group had no wipes except for Pharos Sirius last boss. As a tank, I didn't know the strategy at all, and since everyone used JP I had to observe and simply improvise. Sure, It was rough, and we wiped 3 times to Siren, but by that time everyone knew what to do and that Lunatic Voice had to be stunned. Party was 2 BLMs and 1 WHM, so I was the only one who could stun, but hey, silence works as well 0.0

All I'm saying, It doesn't take a group with full ilvl 90 to beat it, If you do that I can't get into the dungeon at all lol Most of my classes are on the low mark for avg. ilvl except for some, and yet I've completed a lot of content on DF (including Titan HMs for 9 relics) when PUG PTs consider mine undergeared. Despite being fine with the current rewards, I don't mind it being upped maybe 150 philos, 50 myths and 65 gear for Sirius

[Ri_ri]

I guess that explains why I only get WP and AK when using the roulette. Everyone is avoiding the HM ones after the first time...

I've done once each, and they did seem too hard. I was amazed when a DL + Relic group almost lacked the damage for Haukke Manor's last boss.

[nostrade]

I guess that explains why I only get WP and AK when using the roulette. Everyone is avoiding the HM ones after the first time...

I've done once each, and they did seem too hard. I was amazed when a DL + Relic group almost lacked the damage for Haukke Manor's last boss.

you trying to burn boss and ignoring adds? that strat only works for geared group
you need to burn adds so she wont do 1 shot spell

[bob13bob]

Pharos Sirius is really hard.
It should drop AT LEAST level 65 items, or preferably 70.

From what I've seen, Pharos drops the exact same items that were dropped on AK 2.0

+1. Talk about making it harder for newer players over. Pharos is way harder than AK and drops the same gear. A dungeon shouldn't require better gear than it drops.