Last night I did the 3 new 4 man dungeons, Pharos Sirius, Copperbell Mines (Hard), and Haukke Manor (Hard). Had a FC group with 4 people in all ilvl 90 gear.

These dungeons have an average item level 48 requirement. Each dungeon was much longer then AK or WP, the bosses I could see being fairly difficult for a random group that wasn't in all 90 gear. They still seemed decently challenging even if you have 4 people in full ilvl 90. We wiped on some of the bosses once because we didn't know their mechanics but beat them on the 2nd attempt.

Some of these bosses had tight DPS requirements (mainly for adds) or throw so many adds at you that it is very easy to get overwhelmed.

Random people with ilvl 48 are suppose to do these? I just don't see it happening because there were a few bosses we just barely won like the first boss in PS for example.

After getting through a semi hard fight and seeing it drop level 60 gear is kind of funny I would love to see someone beat these in full 48 gear or even 60 gear for that matter.

Dungeons that drop level 60 loot they shouldn't be this hard. Most people will just cap their myth on WP or AK due to them being way easier, you can finish like 4 WPs in the time it takes to do one PS. 120 myth vs 50 myth. Seems like a no brainier that people will still just cap on WP and never run these new zones again after the first time for the experience of doing something new, because they aren't efficient to farm at all.

The difficulty should be similar to that of WP or AK since they were meant for ilvl 48 people for gearing up to do CT and Coil.