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    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Overtuned? o.O I ran Pharos and Haukke, no one in the pt had any experience. We beat both with 0 wipes, no problems at all, Haukke ended up being as fast if not a little faster than WP.
    So because a group with gear more than 20 item levels over what it takes to get in and 16-21 item levels over what drops in the zone can do it the instance isn't overtuned...

    Someone has issues...
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    Ayaminae Yirien
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    So because a group with gear more than 20 item levels over what it takes to get in and 16-21 item levels over what drops in the zone can do it the instance isn't overtuned...

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    I was replying to the other people who said they were in i90 or decently geared, someone has issues reading the whole topic
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    Jyoeru Zaberu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Overtuned? o.O I ran Pharos and Haukke, no one in the pt had any experience. We beat both with 0 wipes, no problems at all, Haukke ended up being as fast if not a little faster than WP.

    I do agree the ilvl should be a bit higher, but there's no real difficulty in the dungeons, unless people don't pay attention or you end up with those people who no matter how many times they do it, they just don't catch on to the patterns, you know the ones I mean lol
    I want to call BS on this so badly. Unless you read strategy in advance, in which case, your 0 wipes/no exp is completely erroneous to talk about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyoeru View Post
    I want to call BS on this so badly. Unless you read strategy in advance, in which case, your 0 wipes/no exp is completely erroneous to talk about.
    Thing is, it's not BS. Especially when you have a group that can react fast to what's going on instead of some that sit there in a glowing floor or not killing adds thinking "Let's see what happens"


    It should be common sense by now that if adds pop, kill them. If something under you glows, gtfo it


    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    No, I mean on the part where she summons Lady Amandine. She has a lot of health, and have to interrupt attacking her constantly because of their AoE.
    Melee lb (if you have it) the boss, burn down Amandine, use any buffs you have if you can't get her lower enough (def buffs, blm's shields, adoloqium etc). Reason for lbing the boss instead of add is that if you're too slow on it after her adds, she'll start eating your pt members to do the AoE again
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    Last edited by Obysuca; 12-22-2013 at 06:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Thing is, it's not BS. Especially when you have a group that can react fast to what's going on instead of some that sit there in a glowing floor or not killing adds thinking "Let's see what happens"


    It should be common sense by now that if adds pop, kill them. If something under you glows, gtfo it



    Melee lb (if you have it) the boss, burn down Amandine, use any buffs you have if you can't get her lower enough (def buffs, blm's shields, adoloqium etc). Reason for lbing the boss instead of add is that if you're too slow on it after her adds, she'll start eating your pt members to do the AoE again
    While I agree, and I guess it's entirely possible, I guess it seems counter-intuitive to me to just fight a boss and know all of the mechanics well enough as they occur the first time, and have no wipes. Like, you had to know to get in mid on siren. You had to know to not break eggs (or more than one) to proc the AOE stun wipe. You had to know these things because failing them is pretty much a guaranteed wipe.

    You knew these things without ever seeing the instance or knowing anything about it? You must be a god among gamers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyoeru View Post
    While I agree, and I guess it's entirely possible, I guess it seems counter-intuitive to me to just fight a boss and know all of the mechanics well enough as they occur the first time, and have no wipes. Like, you had to know to get in mid on siren. You had to know to not break eggs (or more than one) to proc the AOE stun wipe. You had to know these things because failing them is pretty much a guaranteed wipe.

    You knew these things without ever seeing the instance or knowing anything about it? You must be a god among gamers!
    Actually, we did kill the eggs, only glowing ones, took the damage from the stun but healed it back up, just stay spread out so it doesn't hit everyone in 1 go and if it's coming to you, hit a buff to reduce the damage or swiftcast stoneskin. Only one person didn't get to the middle the first time Siren did it but caught on after
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    Last edited by Obysuca; 12-22-2013 at 04:31 PM.

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    Jinrya Geki
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    Haukke manor with a good group can do it in about 15 minutes, maybe less. For 50 myth and only 5 minutes more than WP. Seems better to me.
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    Ellanor Vortefaurt
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    There are some new lvl 60 gear on the new dungeons. Saw monk specific gear and caster bracer which I don't recall they were in AK. All the chests now contains AK accesories which only dropped from 1 specific chest.
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    Kule Ito
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 75
    Sirius is pretty fast if you skip chests and burn bosses without using the mechanics, as the WHM I kite the adds on the first/ second and mini boss while using regen and swiftcast a medica I or II if the boss does aoe damage. Only thing that's a pain is Lunatic Voice on Siren if she resists stun.
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    Erika Indira
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    dungeons aint that hard people just dont pay attention. either not aware of there surroundings or dont bother getting adds off the healer then cry healer sucks when he/she dies.
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