PVP, and how Gimped MELEE is.

[Lecreuset]

monk/dragoons I know don't have any problems with pvp

[OdinTheTainted]

Been reading and in all fairness. Let's assume sprint and sleep were removed and there was no issue with animations.

I have 1 instant spell and CD abilities left and can do nothing while being attacked after those CD GG.

Not remove lol that would be insane. Just reduce the timer.

[OdinTheTainted]

monk/dragoons I know don't have any problems with pvp

There is an animation break. You wouldn't understand because you play an archer. Before you assume they are doing fine, ask them " hey how many times does your attack break animation and your attacks do not land.
It happens you guys are starting to sound like the people who claimed no lag existed in this game when doing titan.

[seraph1m]

deal with the cc effecs how dude 1 100 second cc removal if ur halers on getting crapped on and has time to dispel you? everyone has full gear and materia right now right? u play a caster u dont know about animation lockout i used to play pvp in another mmo and did quite well with an underpowered class. but you a run of the mill elitist who really does need to die in the real world in a horrible way

[Divinemight]

deal with the cc effecs how dude 1 100 second cc removal if ur halers on getting crapped on and has time to dispel you? everyone has full gear and materia right now right? u play a caster u dont know about animation lockout i used to play pvp in another mmo and did quite well with an underpowered class. but you a run of the mill elitist who really does need to die in the real world in a horrible way

I did Wolf's Den on MNK, PLD, DRG and BRD, stop crying, learn to communicate with your teammate, dont tunnel vision. Oh wait, I have 3 meeles, and I am perfectly awware of animation lock. Everyone plays PvP in antoher MMO, you are not special. If you dont like Sleep and refuse to deal with it, dont play

Japanse fourm only have one thread aobut Sleep PvP, and it is not whinning, it is just recommendation:

ピュリファイはあなたの友達です。
使ってください。

Go google yourself.

[Dale]

I never understand the fascination or the logic where hiding behind a small tree will stop a fireball or an arrow that probably can go straight through solid steel. I realize gameplay trumps 'realism', but is hide and seek really the important to implement?

I'll never understand it either. It's just annoying to me and I don't understand why it's important to implement either.

[seraph1m]

communicate in a pug group thats really easy this is pvp in general keep whiping ut epeen out on forums cuz its how u make urself feel good

[Divinemight]

communicate in a pug group thats really easy this is pvp in general keep whiping ut epeen out on forums cuz its how u make urself feel good

Learn to play:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nu-Dragoon-PvP

Why dont you go reply on thread above and tell him that he is wrong if you are so confident that your opinion outweight us?

[Zabuza]

I will say that as a monk I went 40-3 yesterday in PvP. Black mages give me no trouble at all. Every loss I had was to a team that had 1-2 summoners on it. I should also say the games I won were in SPITE of the animation lock, which needs to be fixed. As a melee, here are some steps you can take to win more games.

-Get 1 point in weapon throw, use it as soon as an enemy tries to sprint away.
-Get purify
-Get Fetter ward and know when to use it.
-Have a healer on VOIP that you can communicate with to tell when to Esuna you.
-As Monk, use Fists of Wind, not Fists of Fire(this is because fists of wind gives increased movement speed.)
-Use sprint and then invigorate at the proper times to keep up with the enemy.
-If you get enliven, you can do another sprint and use that to restore your TP.

In short, the PvP skills help melee greatly. Weapon throw, purify, fetter ward, and enliven.

[Lecreuset]

There is an animation break. You wouldn't understand because you play an archer. Before you assume they are doing fine, ask them " hey how many times does your attack break animation and your attacks do not land.
It happens you guys are starting to sound like the people who claimed no lag existed in this game when doing titan.

Oh please I've partied with them and win games more than partying with a black mage. I may be using archer as main on forums but I have a dragoon at 50 as well. I know about attacks breaking but hey, I also know how to prevent that.

Some players are good, some are bad. The people having trouble are probably not that good to begin with. Nothing wrong with that, but atleast admit that you're actually not that good and live with it.

I saw another thread about people complaining summoners are terrible in pvp but my team's been destroyed by summoners plenty of times. They were just better player than us. End of story