PVP, and how Gimped MELEE is.

[seraph1m]

LOL IM JUST PLAYING WELL!!!!!! this guys a pro lets all learn from him cuz obviously gods gift to pvp. the game favors ranged classes i have to burn 4 gcds to begin any dps on a target and i have nothing that forces you to blow ur cc break pvp ability guess who can black mages with sleep summoners with there pet pushback bind potentially our stuns arent enough pressure comparitvley. we do good damage if we can stick to a target but with the amount of things we need to burn a cc break ability on to do that damage effectivley comparative to ranged classes is the issue. that on top of utility we lack u can push dps off ur healer i can feint them and slow them not stop them which is better?

[Alhanelem]

LOL IM JUST PLAYING WELL!!!!!! this guys a pro lets all learn from him cuz obviously gods gift to pvp. the game favors ranged classes i have to burn 4 gcds to begin any dps on a target and i have nothing that forces you to blow ur cc break pvp ability guess who can black mages with sleep summoners with there pet pushback bind potentially our stuns arent enough pressure comparitvley. we do good damage if we can stick to a target but with the amount of things we need to burn a cc break ability on to do that damage effectivley comparative to ranged classes is the issue. that on top of utility we lack u can push dps off ur healer i can feint them and slow them not stop them which is better?

I find your maturity level astuounding and somehow as a result I'm not suprised that you're losing. Your single run on sentence post is so unreadable that it continues to demonstrate your lack of understanding on PvP concepts.

[Sygmaelle]

That isn't what I asked to see, what is your "Win\Match\Loss" specifically. Unless you have won alittle over 1.4-2.0+ you are not that special. Because I have instances where I had 3-4 kills and didn't win as a warrior because of revivals and my team not being able to keep up

W/L ratio doesn't mean shit, sorry to break your flawed logic. You can have amazing team players / players that always got pretty terrible teams, so by extension a pretty sad w/l and yet when they are in your team they do 4 times better than you ever will. It's just completely irrelevant. Im much more afraid of a guy havin 1.5 k/d and like a bit more than 1.0 w/l ratio that always play in pug than your average joe braggin about everything, beein all the time in premade and just whorin the whole match because hes beein brought down to 60% hp

[seraph1m]

says the mature individual who resorts to judging someone level of maturity based on grammar. your so cool man i wanna grow up to be just like you. im on a phone and im not writing a document for a proffesional or educational purposes so i dont care about proper grammar.

[seraph1m]

and all you did that post was insult me personally ignoring valid points on how ranged classes have an advantage. your so mature

[OdinTheTainted]

W/L ratio doesn't mean shit, sorry to break your flawed logic. You can have amazing team players / players that always got pretty terrible teams, so by extension a pretty sad w/l and yet when they are in your team they do 4 times better than you ever will. It's just completely irrelevant. Im much more afraid of a guy havin 1.5 k/d and like a bit more than 1.0 w/l ratio that always play in pug than your average joe braggin about everything, beein all the time in premade and just whorin the whole match because hes beein brought down to 60% hp

I edited my op a bit, to reflect on my experience with a static. You are right, with a static who knows how to coordinate winning is more likely, so I apologize for that, I did all my runs as a pug. After finding a static I won much more.

but you cannot ignore key facts that make melee have a disadvantage in pvp. The animation lock is really bad for a war at times, as well as monks. The sprinting away and being able to cast is also another issue.

[Curcio]

I edited my op a bit, to reflect on my experience with a static. You are right, with a static who knows how to coordinate winning is more likely, so I apologize for that, I did all my runs as a pug. After finding a static I won much more.

but you cannot ignore key facts that make melee have a disadvantage in pvp. The animation lock is really bad for a war at times, as well as monks. The sprinting away and being able to cast is also another issue.

I'll agree we're a little underpowered in PVP because of this ridiculous animation problem, but I have to ask:

Are you using Weapon Throw? It removes sprint if done from behind, and can cause Heavy.

Not directed at you, but Sleep isn't that big of a problem in PVP. Get yourself Purify and it's practically not a problem. Not to mention PVP materia/gear. And Fetterward.

[Alhanelem]

says the mature individual who resorts to judging someone level of maturity based on grammar. your so cool man i wanna grow up to be just like you. im on a phone and im not writing a document for a proffesional or educational purposes so i dont care about proper grammar.

Actually one's use of grammar and spelling often does say a lot about that person. I could be wrong and I'm sure you're a fine, upstanding member of real life society. However, the face you're presenting to others on this forum is failing to convey that. I'm not normally super picky about proper English but when your writing is so bad that it's difficult to read, I draw a line there. When I combine this with your demonstrated lack of understanding of PvP concepts (Most of the mechanics in play here are in just about every MMO with PvP and I see pretty much the same amount of complaining about OP crowd control when there are ways to deal with it, I know I'm dealing with someone who either doesn't have a lot of experience with PvP or has not learned from that experience). it tells me that you are fairly likely to have no idea what you are talking about especially when I don't have great difficulty in handling these mechanics myself (and class has little to do with the tactics you employ to deal with it).

You frequently resort to childish use of disability-related insults and display little actual of discussion of tactics, strategy and mechanics. You basically just keep saying "This is OPbecause I lost to it, I don't like it, therefore its broken."

but you cannot ignore key facts that make melee have a disadvantage in pvp.

What key facts? There is almost no animation lock in this game except on Jumps and a couple other things that have actual character movement as part of their effect. Sprinting away is of limited effectiveness because Sprint's speed boost is heavily nerfed- any effect that causes weight more than negates Sprint.

Nerfing BRD damage at great range and 100% spell interruption rate more than offset the ability to do things from a distance. A PLD can interrupt any caster with a shield lob. MNKs have that charging stun w/e it's called. Any advantage remaining to ranged DPS is mostly compensated by their overall squishiness.

[Jarlax]

Been reading and in all fairness. Let's assume sprint and sleep were removed and there was no issue with animations.

I have 1 instant spell and CD abilities left and can do nothing while being attacked after those CD GG.

[Fyreus]

here is your solution do a 20 sec sleep..

smelling salts.. or telling your team to cure you cause cure removes sleep. PURIFY IS A CC REMOVER!

prepare before going into the arena, get your potions and foods and stop complaining

Having tried them today i can tell you they didn't work (sadly neither did cure for sleeping targets which i could have SWORN worked yesterday).