"Terrible Idea" does not begin to describe the CT loot system in reality.

[BlazeIV]

It simply makes no sense. One character, while not extremely likely, has the possibility to run Coil, gaining 2 pieces of gear per turn. That's assuming 2 gear drops per turn for turns 1 through 5 (not including turn 3). Item level 90 gear (ilvl90), eight possible loot drops. These loot drops have no restriction as to who they can go to. So, given lucky RNG rolls on class(es) of gear, one character has the potential of walking away with eight pieces of loot from the best raid in the game.

A raid you complete with seven other people. Not 23. Just seven. The logistics alone make that more appealing.

So... Better loot. More possible loot. Easier to manage group sizes.

Why would I run Crystal Tower, again?

[snowybell]

I would assume to cap CT gear it would be around patch 2.2 next year (12 weeks tops). I highly doubt I will even want anything from CT for my main. By 12 weeks I would probably have tons of I90 myth or coil for my main.

I would CT my alt so when new content hits I would have a decent I80 alt to run new content with. With an I90 main.

[BlueMage]

I like it better than Coil. I was able to spam run CT until I finally got the item I wanted to drop. I prefer that, over having to settle for something.

[Sin_Nombre]

I get the impression most of you haven't actually run - or beaten - CT yet due to the bugged fates or bad groups... It'll be interesting to hear opinions from people that have actually cleared this place and see what I've seen.

[Joygasm]

What I don't understand is why they want to miss out on giving their largest raid serious replayability with this lockout system, and yet allow us to farm the extreme primals for their i90 loot. Titan now drops weapons equal to Crystal Tower ilvl as well!

I don't like lockouts, but at least be consistent so it doesn't look like you're making it up as you go along.

As it stands now, I won't even touch Crystal Tower sans the 1 run per week mandated by my FC. I'll gear my alt jobs up with better gear just capping Mythology & offspec Coil gear, along with spending philosophy, and the loot that drops from the new dungeons for filler over dealing with the headache CT is going to cause.

[Smartcat]

Another huge problem is that once one person get the look they wanted they just leave. I mean SE really didn't think ppl would do that? They need to change things and fast.

[Toranja]

That's your fault? Run it again and learn fom your mistake.

[Eekiki]

So... we've all been complaining

Stopped reading right there. Speak for yourself and if people agree, they'll like your post. Stop presuming you speak for any number of people besides yourself, especially "all" people.

and yet allow us to farm the extreme primals for their i90 loot.

What? You can only get one i90 drop from extreme primals per week.

Why would I run Crystal Tower, again?

I don't know why you would. But there's plenty of reasons for me to run it, because I haven't advanced as far in gear progression with all the jobs I like to play.

[Versiroth]

The fact is, if you could win as many greed rolls as you want, then FCs could exploit it and gear everyone up in full CT loot in a matter of days. If tank loot drops and your tank has already won one need roll that week?? Well, have him greed and have the rest of the FC pass. He auto wins the loot even though he's already won a tank piece that week.

[Kaizlu]

Question:

When in CT and you do Greed or Need - how does it work? Is it against 7 people or 23?