"Terrible Idea" does not begin to describe the CT loot system in reality.

[Ri_ri]

CT lockout is perfect for holding subs.

"Can't beat Coil? Don't worry... just continue subbing, one day you'll have the gear!"

[Ryios]

Does only certain pieces drop from each chest boss? If so are players leaving once they open the chest and find/don't find what they want?

Yes, and Yes. But people leaving is usually one or two and the duty finder replaces them relatively quickly unless they were a tank.

[Arkista]

Bump cause they need to fix it.

[Earthgaia]

You only need 5 pieces for each class from crystal tower for most that will be 5 weeks to get everything, with coil it could take months to get 1 or 2 pieces with the obscure drop rates for bards etc.

[Umero]

This really is a horrible system.. Especially considering that this isn't even the best gear you can obtain, and it'll take atleast -a month- to gear -one job- with just the basic hands, feet, chest and pants.

It's just stupid.

the only thing I can think of is they are doing that for 2.2 o future patches for +1 or +2 upgrades that will beat the current highest endgame gear.

[Hyrist]

You'll start lotting on gear near week's end, when it's a matter of get it or lose your lot right for that week. At the beginning of the week, people are going to be picky about their one loot item. They can keep going back to get Tomes and wait for a piece of gear they will settle on for the week. As it goes on, the pressure increases.

Sure, everyone who knee-jerks and hates the lockout system will gripe. But the alternative is abysmal drop rates that only benefit the hardest of the hardcore, and SE's already made the concious choice NOT to cater to the Hardcore above the Casual audience. I've pointed this out for over a year now.

If this were done the other way, we'd be complaining about the drop-rates right now, snickering jokes about the Grade Five Dark matter that's dropping out of chests.

[RumiP]

"E.g. we had a BLM, crazy good DPS, get's his last one piece of Gear and he's gone, didn't log on for a weeks."

Fixed that for you

[Adeltis]

so what if everyone passed and loot wasted? it is loot no one wants, so I don't see anything wrong with having it drop to the ground. Also, you can run the instance to your hearts content until something you want comes up and you lot on it.

I certainly wanted both the headpiece and gloves i saw wasted, but I couldn't take them and they went into the void. It's completely bull crap if no one wants them and I do I should be allowed to take it....What a waste, once I'm done I won't run it even to help because it pisses me off to watch stuff i want and need go to waste.

[C-croft]

Here is the thing though. If they made it so you could no-limit farm CT then it would just end up like darklight gear. Darklight gear would be essentially worthless, you could just farm CT for i80 and skip the DL tier altogether...

But it's the opposite now. You grind iLvl 70 and begin coil. Why bother with CT and a one week lockout? Granted it should be done, as an extra upgrade is nice, but you can easily overgear CT in two-three weeks with coil and myth. A one week lockout on gear that isn't required to progress to ilvl 90 doesn't make sense.

[zdub303]

But it's the opposite now. You grind iLvl 70 and begin coil. Why bother with CT and a one week lockout? Granted it should be done, as an extra upgrade is nice, but you can easily overgear CT in two-three weeks with coil and myth. A one week lockout on gear that isn't required to progress to ilvl 90 doesn't make sense.

Hence we're back to all of the complaints that the 'elitists' had when they complained it was i80 at all.

i80 is not required for you, but there are some who might be struggling in coil and could find use for i80 gear. Or in my case, i80 gear will be useful for my dragoon. Also, 99.9% of players will not be able to do twintania in just i70, and even then I think most players will need full i90 to do twin. Full i90 isn't an overnight achievement, and i80 gear will be great to supplement in the meantime. Heck I happily took a crown of light yesterday in CT even though im average ilvl 87 on my PLD.

My dad is a WHM who has seen almost nothing drop in coil, he still has a bunch of i70 he could drop some CT gear in the meantime while he waits for allagan or myth gear. Once his WHM is decked out he can start farming for his BLM. Seriously, plenty of uses for CT gear for us.

If it was unlocked loot, then we would feel compelled to run it continuously until we had no more i70 left - otherwise we're holding back our team on twin and progressing the new primals. I, for one, am glad I don't have to do that.