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  1. #201
    Player
    Kevee's Avatar
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    Character
    Zelia Sarrasin
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Hidden nerf to Shadow Flare.

    It now does the 25 potency as listed instead of the ~35 potency before.

    Hitting for 90s-100s pre=patch, now hits for 60s.
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  2. #202
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    Spellbinder's Avatar
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    Chenn Maboroshi
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    Tiamat
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Hidden nerf to Shadow Flare.

    It now does the 25 potency as listed instead of the ~35 potency before.

    Hitting for 90s-100s pre=patch, now hits for 60s.
    This was a bug fix. It's just not in the English patch notes yet.

    Edit:
    From the list of addressed issues.

    グラウンドターゲットによるダメージエリア(フレイミングアロー、シャドウフレア)が、常にクリティカルヒットしている。

    Ground-targeted attacks (i.e. Flame Arrow and Shadow Flare) always did critical damage.
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  3. #203
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    Inubyinu's Avatar
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    Inubyinu Nybaem
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Garuda now affected by spellspeed and fey glow on cast times and recast on windblade and Aerial slash actions. Ifrit/titan Recasts now affected by Fey Light including stun's.
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    Last edited by Inubyinu; 12-17-2013 at 09:18 PM. Reason: Rewording

  4. #204
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    Seobit's Avatar
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    Character
    Luna Clear
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    SPELL SPEED BIS!

    Also bane is HUGE now.
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  5. #205
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    Quieren Evergreen
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    I'm more upset at the change in spell caster gear. I lost a massive amount of hit thanks to the stat changes... You go and spend your points you can only earn on a week per week bases, plan out how to optimize your gear and they pull this stunt out of now where.
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  6. #206
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    Inubyinu's Avatar
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    Character
    Inubyinu Nybaem
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    All smn -egi animations have changed too.
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  7. #207
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    PriyaJugulataris's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Princess Priya
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Inubyinu View Post
    Garuda now affected by spellspeed and fey glow on cast times and recast on windblade and Aerial slash actions. Ifrit/titan Recasts now affected by Fey Light including stun's.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seobit View Post
    SPELL SPEED BIS!
    Also bane is HUGE now.
    This will be interesting to see how it affects BiS lists. Accuracy is still going to be needed for Garuda, but spell speed stacking might also be valid now.
    My hypothesis is that accuracy, crit and spell speed are gonna be the main stats for Summoner, should the spell speed affect Garuda.
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  8. #208
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Oh well, sflare change is sad.

    So while losing thunder was lame, I think people are underestimating blizzard 2. It shores up the one weakness that we had, which was that tri-disaster sucked butt (on both aoe damage and mana consumption).

    With blizz 2 while its "only" 20 potency more, this is a ~70% improvement over tri-disaster, not to mention MUCH easier on the mana (I think, maybe I'm wrong on this? i've been wrong on mana before).

    If we assume sflare is doing what it is supposed to, with bane, we're doing 95(tri dot) + 25(sflare) + 14(miasma II, w/ cast bonus) + 50(blizz 2) per 3 sec, roughly 184 on "all" targets. This is obviously rough numbers as it doesn't count GCDs used to cast dots, nor the possibility of needing to recast bane.

    We were doing roughly 164 before. This is at least a ~12% dps increase on 4 targets, much more than that on >4 targets. That is SIGNIFICANT.

    For large aoe encounters, our dps has significantly improved. I'm looking at you, turn 4.
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    Last edited by pandabearcat; 12-17-2013 at 10:04 PM.

  9. #209
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    Originally I was a bit upset about our nerf but reading all these posts made me realize I'm still a boss ass bitch. I DO feel like the Bane 3 mob restriction should be abolished but meh, not a big deal. I can't wait to go home tonight to try it out.

    I'm still fairly new so I kinda wanted to ask yall experts what the BiS is for each slot. I've got +1 Relic and myth Head/Body/Feet. Any word on if Spell Speed really works for Garuda now?
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  10. #210
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    T0rin's Avatar
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    Character
    Torin Escarpa
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60
    Even if spell speed works for Garuda like it does for SMN, still won't make it worth slotting over crit or det.
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