Why is housing even being released

[Ozz]

If this was XI, people wouldn't bat an eyelash at content released that is not immediately attainable and requires a virtual life's work. Relics? Mythics?

In Gimme Entitlement Reborn, SE can't release anything that takes time and work and community building and any of the virtues they hope to instill in the player base that are lacking in its instant grat channel surfing low attention span twitterati gimme the escalade now daddy existence.

First, this isnt XI.

Second, legacy players have already been waiting for housing , since it was promised back during the days of 1.0. And to this date not everyone has hundreds of millions of gil. Only a small handful of players would.
300-600million gil is not even a long term goal for most honest players. Getting myth gear and +1 for all 9 jobs is a better example of a long term goal.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

another thread about another person complaining........ and having wrong info, of course that is a requirement too ;p

You can see by the pricing, they are doing it this way to remove as much gil as they can from the game, they even said later the prices will be lowered (guessing for the personal house release)

[Cid_Grim]

Oh look, someone making a pointless post to complain about someone posting an observation and request for clarification.

On topic, blah blah blah....

Oh my bad.

On topic, you can post this in one of the 3,000 other housing threads.

[Shai]

Do they just give you houses for nothing in the country you live too?

... or do you have to work for years of your life to pay off the mountains of debt you incur when you buy them?

Come on, people. Be thankful you actually have a fng goal in this game. All the goals so far have been limited by artificial means - and while a steep price may seem "artificial" at least it's attainable at your own pace. I could have full Myth and/or Allagan on all my jobs by now, but I don't because of some (understandable, yet arbitrary) rule imposed on me by the Twelve (as far as I know, there's no Lore reason I can't pick up more than 300 Myth Tomes per seven days). Gil is something you can make, or borrow from friends - it's something you can continually work toward. Hell you can buy the smallest plot and the crappiest house, sell it, and upgrade when you make more.


The system probably isn't perfect, but stop friggin crying because the game actually has given you something to work for.
If you want a house, whine less and make gil more.

And good news, everyone! The longer it takes you to make the gil, the cheaper the houses get!

[Durthane]

And what exactly is the point of this post?

More or less saying SE released it before it was ready because to do otherwise would be to admit mistake and lose face. That or they intend housing to stay the realm of the few. Which I don't think is the case, at least I hope not.

Off topic, it occurs to me that with the moghouse system of FFXI they had an individual instance for every single player didn't they? Or is there a reason the servers of FFXIV can't handle a much smaller number of larger instances?

[Romikemi]

But what if they don't want housing to be casual? What if they don't want to be other games? What if they're seeing for the second time where that got them? 1.5 million players? They're easily losing 300k+ of that over Wolves' Den no matter how they design it.

Why not give people a life's mission? No such thing exists in the game at this point, even farming myth and Coil will reach its usefulness by around March for the majority of multi-job players.

The right time to own a house is the right time to own a house. If people feel compelled to turn the game into a job to get a house, I don't think that's a problem with the housing system.

[RynaultB]

Honestly I don't get why people are upset your buying a house 512 people can use. Did they honestly expect it to be cheap ??

Most FCs have like 100 in it atmost, but only like 50 or less are active. The playerbase is not using FCs the way SE expected them too. There are tons and tons of small FCs with just a few people or friends. Once they make content that would need large FCs then they'll mostly stay small like they are now.

[EdwinLi]

I can never consider FC House as House since it is made more for a base of operations for FCs.

A good design for a FC House would be more towards designing the FC House to be a bar rather than a house.

Small House, as shown, is only the size of a Inn room so not much can be done but to turn a Small FC house into a place like a cafe.

Medium House size makes it possible for a much larger bar for the FC base.

Mansions are shown to have two rooms on the 2nd floor. While the bottom floor can be designed to be a bar the top floors can be design with 1 room being a meeting room for FC members and the second room can be designed as a Office for the FC Leader and officers.

[Ryuko]

I'm okay with housing costing a lot at first. I just think the way they went about hyping it was all wrong.

"See all these neat videos? Look at all these cool features that will available to free companies! Oh, these new items made from crafts will look great in there... you can even have customizeable this, and that, and this... Please look forward to it in 2.1!"

And then it launches... Only a small amount of people can get it. Well, why was it hyped up so much in the first place? It seemed to be played up like something a lot of people could enjoy, but instead it is reserved for the few power elite.

If this is their attempt to 'restrict' who buys houses at first, they are really killing two birds with one stone.

1) They will be removing a lot of excess money from the economy. The people who worked that hard to make that money had little to spend it on besides HQ items and expensive melds.
2) They will restrict the amount of strain servers receive, specifically because only really rich people can afford it and they know exactly how much gil is currently in the economy. The 'slowly reduced' prices is one way to allow the regulation to take effect, but the reduction is not enough to affect real change. If you don't have 20m gil, a slight reduction of price isn't going to affect you that much unless you're sitting at 18m already... and if you have THAT much gil, you probably already know how to make gil, so getting to 20m wouldn't be a huge stretch for a dedicated person.

If I had to guess, housing will get MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper in 2.2, or the first MAJOR hotfix they make. They just want to regulate it at first and give players a place to dump their excess money. Again, this wouldn't have been such a big deal if they didn't hype it SO MUCH to begin with. A lot of people were looking forward to this.

I do not agree with the difference between legacy and non-legacy prices. A lot of legacy players were very poor (and still are just as poor as non-legacy). I don't think the newer players or poor legacy players should be 'punished'.

[Durthane]

But what if they don't want housing to be casual? What if they don't want to be other games? What if they're seeing for the second time where that got them? 1.5 million players? They're easily losing 300k+ of that over Wolves' Den no matter how they design it.

Why not give people a life's mission? No such thing exists in the game at this point, even farming myth and Coil will reach its usefulness by around March for the majority of multi-job players.

The right time to own a house is the right time to own a house. If people feel compelled to turn the game into a job to get a house, I don't think that's a problem with the housing system.

Aye, the game needs some larger goals. But taking a hyped and anticipated aspect of the game and locking it away behind a hardcore grind aint the way to add one. You want your Relic and Mythic, well have them. Don't take the mog house and make it an exclusive to folks that sacrifice every other facet of their lives for FFXIV. I played FFXI for years and loved it, but a grind like the old days will not keep players. It will just discourage and drive em away.