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  1. #1
    Player
    Shai's Avatar
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    Shai Hulud
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Do they just give you houses for nothing in the country you live too?

    ... or do you have to work for years of your life to pay off the mountains of debt you incur when you buy them?

    Come on, people. Be thankful you actually have a fng goal in this game. All the goals so far have been limited by artificial means - and while a steep price may seem "artificial" at least it's attainable at your own pace. I could have full Myth and/or Allagan on all my jobs by now, but I don't because of some (understandable, yet arbitrary) rule imposed on me by the Twelve (as far as I know, there's no Lore reason I can't pick up more than 300 Myth Tomes per seven days). Gil is something you can make, or borrow from friends - it's something you can continually work toward. Hell you can buy the smallest plot and the crappiest house, sell it, and upgrade when you make more.


    The system probably isn't perfect, but stop friggin crying because the game actually has given you something to work for.
    If you want a house, whine less and make gil more.

    And good news, everyone! The longer it takes you to make the gil, the cheaper the houses get!
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    Sir Romikemi
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    But what if they don't want housing to be casual? What if they don't want to be other games? What if they're seeing for the second time where that got them? 1.5 million players? They're easily losing 300k+ of that over Wolves' Den no matter how they design it.

    Why not give people a life's mission? No such thing exists in the game at this point, even farming myth and Coil will reach its usefulness by around March for the majority of multi-job players.

    The right time to own a house is the right time to own a house. If people feel compelled to turn the game into a job to get a house, I don't think that's a problem with the housing system.
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    Remedia Pancea
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 69
    Quote Originally Posted by Romikemi View Post
    But what if they don't want housing to be casual? What if they don't want to be other games? What if they're seeing for the second time where that got them? 1.5 million players? They're easily losing 300k+ of that over Wolves' Den no matter how they design it.

    Why not give people a life's mission? No such thing exists in the game at this point, even farming myth and Coil will reach its usefulness by around March for the majority of multi-job players.

    The right time to own a house is the right time to own a house. If people feel compelled to turn the game into a job to get a house, I don't think that's a problem with the housing system.
    Aye, the game needs some larger goals. But taking a hyped and anticipated aspect of the game and locking it away behind a hardcore grind aint the way to add one. You want your Relic and Mythic, well have them. Don't take the mog house and make it an exclusive to folks that sacrifice every other facet of their lives for FFXIV. I played FFXI for years and loved it, but a grind like the old days will not keep players. It will just discourage and drive em away.
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    Edwin Li
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I can never consider FC House as House since it is made more for a base of operations for FCs.

    A good design for a FC House would be more towards designing the FC House to be a bar rather than a house.

    Small House, as shown, is only the size of a Inn room so not much can be done but to turn a Small FC house into a place like a cafe.

    Medium House size makes it possible for a much larger bar for the FC base.

    Mansions are shown to have two rooms on the 2nd floor. While the bottom floor can be designed to be a bar the top floors can be design with 1 room being a meeting room for FC members and the second room can be designed as a Office for the FC Leader and officers.
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    I'm okay with housing costing a lot at first. I just think the way they went about hyping it was all wrong.

    "See all these neat videos? Look at all these cool features that will available to free companies! Oh, these new items made from crafts will look great in there... you can even have customizeable this, and that, and this... Please look forward to it in 2.1!"

    And then it launches... Only a small amount of people can get it. Well, why was it hyped up so much in the first place? It seemed to be played up like something a lot of people could enjoy, but instead it is reserved for the few power elite.

    If this is their attempt to 'restrict' who buys houses at first, they are really killing two birds with one stone.

    1) They will be removing a lot of excess money from the economy. The people who worked that hard to make that money had little to spend it on besides HQ items and expensive melds.
    2) They will restrict the amount of strain servers receive, specifically because only really rich people can afford it and they know exactly how much gil is currently in the economy. The 'slowly reduced' prices is one way to allow the regulation to take effect, but the reduction is not enough to affect real change. If you don't have 20m gil, a slight reduction of price isn't going to affect you that much unless you're sitting at 18m already... and if you have THAT much gil, you probably already know how to make gil, so getting to 20m wouldn't be a huge stretch for a dedicated person.

    If I had to guess, housing will get MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper in 2.2, or the first MAJOR hotfix they make. They just want to regulate it at first and give players a place to dump their excess money. Again, this wouldn't have been such a big deal if they didn't hype it SO MUCH to begin with. A lot of people were looking forward to this.

    I do not agree with the difference between legacy and non-legacy prices. A lot of legacy players were very poor (and still are just as poor as non-legacy). I don't think the newer players or poor legacy players should be 'punished'.
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    Last edited by Ryuko; 12-17-2013 at 01:43 PM.

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    Soup Sifu
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    Oh look more White Knights defending anything SE does. I hope SE makes us kill 1 million ladybugs in order to do coil, that would be as fun as grinding gil for housing. /eyeroll
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    Kailea Nagisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus1x View Post
    Oh look more White Knights defending anything SE does. I hope SE makes us kill 1 million ladybugs in order to do coil, that would be as fun as grinding gil for housing. /eyeroll
    not white knighting and not blindly defending what they are doing. Why not try and look at it in another way, rather then just blindly riding the hate train.
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    Raz Darkfang
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    Monk Lv 80
    something people seem to constantly forget, these are FREE COMPANY houses, they arent supposed to be bought by an individual, but by your entire FC as a whole

    personal housing doesnt even get added for another half year, so start saving up for that one
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