Is Twintania even doable without a virus rotation?

[Giantbane]

Along with the other WAR changes and the Lustrate buff, quite frankly I think I might prefer to heal a Warrior MTing Twin.

Lustrate is the same on WAR as it is on PLD. Stoneskin is the same too.

When comparing the two classes, just assume that Shield Oath provides 25% extra HP and 25% bonus healing. The math works out like that for all intents and purposes that currently exist in the game (well, at least as I'm aware of them).

That is wrong way. They are FORCING people to invite WAR. Forcing people to play a certain style NEVER WRONG.

Both classes are good. PLD provides the Halone debuff that reduces STR (and physical damage as a result) and can block. WAR provides storm's path which reduces damage.

It may be better to have the PLD MT and the WAR OT providing both storm's eye & storm's path while he DPS. We don't know the duration on storm's path yet, but it's likely that you won't be able to maintain both buffs while tanking unless you severely gimp your enmity generation.

[Goodberry]

Even more self-congratulating for what I decided nearly a month ago, before reaching 50. :P

[tou]

ITT: People who have never killed Twintania discuss how to kill Twintania.

[Kresciel]

There's more ways to mitigate damage than just virus and RoD. The other ways will just be used more frequently. I might actually use Eos now...

People use Selene?

[Mihael_Longclaw]

Is that sarcasm?

He's being 100% serious, shits impossible dude.

[Noll]

People use Selene?

Hello. I'm maining a SCH and I already killed twitania many times (I guess you can check my achievements/characted ID/whathever).

I'm succesfully organizing and managing a team of competent static players with which we clear coil in around 1 hour, from turn1 to 5, and we kill Twintania 1/1.

I'm not interested in e-peening but I wanted to tell you this because, I use Selene. And I could point you lots of good reasons for using Selene instead of Eos, but I won't.

I'm sure your sarcastic sentence that I liked to quote is coming from a person, that like me, cleared all the current game content as SCH withouth problems (oh yeah, I even own the Twintania's Book btw).


Back on the original topic:

The virus nerf alongside the RoD nerf will definitely provide a challenge. I was already providing my main tank ALSO sacred soil, pre-adoloquim and stoneskin, to make everything easier, let's see what happens now.

[Nihility]

warrior should be able to keep up the damage debuff from storm's path fairly easily
and scholar can still sacred soil every one of them

the only real problem is the every now and then she stacks death sentence, the bellyflop, and an auto attack at same time. which can do some scary damage even with virus knocking off 15% of it

[Kresciel]

I'm not interested in e-peening but I wanted to tell you this because, I use Selene. And I could point you lots of good reasons for using Selene instead of Eos, but I won't.

No, I'm interested. Please tell me. I don't really see the benefit of 1.1 seconds off the GCD with the server lag and input delays.

[Noll]

No, I'm interested. Please tell me. I don't really see the benefit of 1.1 seconds off the GCD with the server lag and input delays.

What can look like a small buff for a single person, is a great buff for 8x people. Selene can constantly keep up a rotation of two buffs, that scales well with gears (because it's based on your current skillspeed/spellspeed).
A 30% buff on spellspeed increases both your healing efficency, the whm healing efficency, and the blms/smns dps. The 30% buff on skillspeed increases the physical dps output etc...
You're trading that for an unnecessary aoe regen (I say unnecessary because the cooldown is definitely too long), and useless magic def buff. The only good thing that Eos adds is the cure potency buff. So your choiche is now: Do I want to improve the overall performance of the entire party by using selene or just the healers for a small portion of the fight?

[Rochetm]

MNK and DRG both specialize in either sustained(mnk) or burst damage(drg).

DRG brings amazing burst damage for situations that require it. They also give Piercing resistance reduction for themselves and for BRDs. Whenever there is a fight where hate management is harder on the tank(i.e. Turn 2, left path), DRGs shine over MNK because they have a means to reduce their enmity. DRGs do not suffer as hard as mnk when a particular mechanic in an instance stops fighting. DRGs also have better aoe capability than MNK(mnk still has good aoe <.<).

What he said... Drg vs Mnk is much like Blm vs Smn... they do similar things but they go about them differently. Drg/Blm has the burst while Mnk/Smn has the damage over time. Drg has great synergy with Brd and Brd is something pretty much every raid group runs with. Mnk currently has no class that match up with them well.