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    Kal El
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    That is wrong way. They are FORCING people to invite WAR. Forcing people to play a certain style NEVER WRONG.
    Like they forced people to invite BRD?
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    That is wrong way. They are FORCING people to invite WAR. Forcing people to play a certain style NEVER WRONG.
    They are not forcing anyone to bring a WAR to there party. The abilities they bring to the table are not a necessity, but defiantly helps. Each job has their strengths, being a diverse party is better than stacking jobs for the greater potential or even build LB faster. I'm sure there will still be groups who will continue to run content w/ PLDx2, though it may not be the most effective, it remains doable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    They are not forcing anyone to bring a WAR to there party. The abilities they bring to the table are not a necessity, but defiantly helps. Each job has their strengths, being a diverse party is better than stacking jobs for the greater potential or even build LB faster. I'm sure there will still be groups who will continue to run content w/ PLDx2, though it may not be the most effective, it remains doable.
    Yes, they ARE forcing people to bring War to coil. Well, no physical force but they are using "suggestion" to made it more favorable by REMOVING a "support" utility from a class, which they claim to be a part support role. Never before i seen an ability completely change form one to another.
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    Player Houston009's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    Yes, they ARE forcing people to bring War to coil. Well, no physical force but they are using "suggestion" to made it more favorable by REMOVING a "support" utility from a class, which they claim to be a part support role. Never before i seen an ability completely change form one to another.
    Please explain how we NEED a WAR for coils? xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    Yes, they ARE forcing people to bring War to coil. Well, no physical force but they are using "suggestion"
    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    It is free will. And it is SE fault for designing boss fight where stacking Bard is ideal ala Titan.
    You are contradicting yourself.

    Plus you should have a "need" for every class! Why should it be 2x PLD, 3x ranged DPS and 1 melée (for rot) instead of WAR/PLD and mixed ranged and melée?
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    Last edited by Kal-El; 12-17-2013 at 09:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal-El View Post
    You are contradicting yourself.

    Plus you should have a "need" for every class! Why should it be 2x PLD, 3x ranged DPS and 1 melée (for rot) instead of WAR/PLD and mixed ranged and melée?
    Why, so melee can get one shot by aoe? No thanks, no one will take the ehhhh Drg into instance. In fact, Mnk is getting too powerful, much more than drg. Is this not encouraging class stacking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    That is wrong way. They are FORCING people to invite WAR. Forcing people to play a certain style NEVER WRONG.
    Actually, a WAR will provide more than just the 10% dmg debuff. He will also be the fifth dps which will be very useful for all the dps check phases. He will surely make things a lot easier in T5 but it's still doable with 2 PLD. Just like how T2 is doable without a bard. No one is forcing you to bring a WAR along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaFlare View Post
    Actually, a WAR will provide more than just the 10% dmg debuff. He will also be the fifth dps which will be very useful for all the dps check phases. He will surely make things a lot easier in T5 but it's still doable with 2 PLD. Just like how T2 is doable without a bard. No one is forcing you to bring a WAR along.
    Where have you read/seen info that demonstrates WAR is a superior DPS to PLD?

    EDIT: If you're a tank, you can get the job done perfectly fine as PLD or WAR.
    Who are these people that think leveling a job to 50 is some steep mountain that requires herculan effort?
    If you can't tank as PLD post update, you should have never been on the job in the first place.
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    Last edited by Royze; 12-17-2013 at 09:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royze View Post
    Where have you read/seen info that demonstrates WAR is a superior DPS to PLD?

    EDIT: If you're a tank, you can get the job done perfectly fine as PLD or WAR.
    Who are these people that think leveling a job to 50 is some steep mountain that requires herculan effort?
    If you can't tank as PLD post update, you should have never been on the job in the first place.
    MNK is going to wreck T4/T5.
    Dreadnaughts are going to die a lot faster and Turn 5's are going to be that much easier with MNKs (providing they don't get conflaged to hell)
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    Lafaiel Khan
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    That is wrong way. They are FORCING people to invite WAR. Forcing people to play a certain style NEVER WRONG.
    Your tears are dlicious, like no one ever told me that I should stop leveling war and level pld instead since they're not wanted endgame. Its the holiday season and I'm hearing Rudolph the red nosed reindeer playing in my head, but with warrior stuck in there instead of Rudolph.

    *then one foggy raiding night the FC commander came to say, Warrior with your 10% DR... won't you tank twintiania tonight?! (then all the party members loved him)
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