Is Twintania even doable without a virus rotation?

[Xellos2099]

It is free will. And it is SE fault for designing boss fight where stacking Bard is ideal ala Titan. People will adapt their old style as much as possible without good incentive. Remember how they try to nerf speed run? People adapted to different speed run style.

[Houston009]

That is wrong way. They are FORCING people to invite WAR. Forcing people to play a certain style NEVER WRONG.

They are not forcing anyone to bring a WAR to there party. The abilities they bring to the table are not a necessity, but defiantly helps. Each job has their strengths, being a diverse party is better than stacking jobs for the greater potential or even build LB faster. I'm sure there will still be groups who will continue to run content w/ PLDx2, though it may not be the most effective, it remains doable.

[Escadora]

No, it's not sarcasm. Virus is the only possible damage mitigation for Death Sentence and because it can now not be used every single time the entire instance is unclearable.

SMH.

/facepalm.

[OmegaFlare]

That is wrong way. They are FORCING people to invite WAR. Forcing people to play a certain style NEVER WRONG.

Actually, a WAR will provide more than just the 10% dmg debuff. He will also be the fifth dps which will be very useful for all the dps check phases. He will surely make things a lot easier in T5 but it's still doable with 2 PLD. Just like how T2 is doable without a bard. No one is forcing you to bring a WAR along.

[Houston009]

No, it's not sarcasm. Virus is the only possible damage mitigation for Death Sentence and because it can now not be used every single time the entire instance is unclearable.

Defiantly sarcasm. xD

[Xellos2099]

They are not forcing anyone to bring a WAR to there party. The abilities they bring to the table are not a necessity, but defiantly helps. Each job has their strengths, being a diverse party is better than stacking jobs for the greater potential or even build LB faster. I'm sure there will still be groups who will continue to run content w/ PLDx2, though it may not be the most effective, it remains doable.

Yes, they ARE forcing people to bring War to coil. Well, no physical force but they are using "suggestion" to made it more favorable by REMOVING a "support" utility from a class, which they claim to be a part support role. Never before i seen an ability completely change form one to another.

[Houston009]

Yes, they ARE forcing people to bring War to coil. Well, no physical force but they are using "suggestion" to made it more favorable by REMOVING a "support" utility from a class, which they claim to be a part support role. Never before i seen an ability completely change form one to another.

Please explain how we NEED a WAR for coils? xD

[Kal-El]

Yes, they ARE forcing people to bring War to coil. Well, no physical force but they are using "suggestion"

It is free will. And it is SE fault for designing boss fight where stacking Bard is ideal ala Titan.

You are contradicting yourself.

Plus you should have a "need" for every class! Why should it be 2x PLD, 3x ranged DPS and 1 melée (for rot) instead of WAR/PLD and mixed ranged and melée?

[Alhanelem]

Twintania never required Virus, it's just helpful to mitigate damage.

Intelligent use of cooldowns, stoneskin/adlo, or even tank swapping provides more than enough mitigation.

This, virus isn't required, just helpful. It doesn't change things THAT dramatically.

Diminishing returns on timer.

Virus doesn't get diminishing returns.

[Delnoir]

A PLD can still tank it while the WAR applies debuff. But both will be viable

Pretty Inner Beast is going to buff the Warrior, not debuff the mob. You're probably thinking of Storm's Path.