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  1. #71
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    Avatar de Zantetsuken
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    mars 2011
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    Siorai Aduaidh
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Élémentaliste Lv 50
    Housing has 3 critical problems, and the astronomically high cost is the least of them.


    The real problems with housing is the max 50% price reduction cap, and the discrepancy between servers. The price discrepancy brutally punishes the many new players that populate legacy servers by lumping them in with a rather small group of 1.0 gil hoarders.

    How to fix.
    • Initial Pricing should be set to the average across all servers.
    • The price reduction cap should be removed completely and the amount of reduction per click should be increased from 0.14% to ~2%

    What this would do is to make housing eventually affordable for all FCs on all servers. It would also introduce market forces to the housing system which allows players to better determine the value of the housing as opposed to having prices artificially dictated by some internally harvested metrics.

    But mostly, it takes something that should be a fun side-activity and allows players to actually engage in it.
    (0)
    Dernière modification de Zantetsuken, 17/12/2013 à 05h07

  2. #72
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    Avatar de senjyo
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    aot 2013
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    Hanekawa Tsubasa
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par BoomerOU Voir le message
    Played the market, I am very well off, it's not difficult. Again, time consuming != challenging. Its fine if you want to praise SE for creating a time sink for you to sink your hours in to with nothing more desirable to fill them since you're free to have whatever opinion you want, but call it what it is. Dont call it a duck unless it's a duck.
    Since you "played the market" before and if you still think making gil is time consuming by doing that, I can only assume you are not doing it right at all. Or that's a typo, it should be "played by the market".
    (0)

  3. #73
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    Avatar de Limecat
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    dcembre 2012
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    Limecat Indignatio
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Mage blanc Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Tupsi Voir le message
    Can you list out what's challenging about this content?
    Choking back the urge to swallow your tongue during the months spent grinding for enough gil.
    (2)

  4. #74
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    Avatar de Sayura_
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    octobre 2013
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    Sayura Ava
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Mage blanc Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par Zantetsuken Voir le message
    • Initial Pricing should be set to the average across all servers.
    • The price reduction cap should be removed completely and the amount of reduction per click should be increased from 0.14% to ~2%
    Good ideas here.

    I'd just like to see an initial fee for "prime location" but everyone starts out with a small house and uses their resources to level the house up to the largest size.

    Can't afford a prime location? No problem, but at least you can start working on your house somewhere.
    (4)

  5. #75
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    Avatar de TrystWildkey
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    octobre 2011
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    Till Sea Swallows All! Arrr
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    Tryst Wildkey
    World
    Durandal
    Main Class
    Couturier Lv 50
    I am getting really, REALLY tired of people saying that we all wanted the largest house right out of the gate.

    I'm also getting tired of people saying that the small houses are affordable.

    Check the prices on Durandal and come back and say the same thing.
    (1)
    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
    Cash shop in, TrystWildkey out.

  6. #76
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    Avatar de Ferr
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    Ferria Svensa
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 60
    He is pointing out that these OF is nothing but a circle jerk of haters and whiners. When you get someone who actually agrees with SE and makes a post about, brace yourself.
    The same could be said otherwise. Theres whiners and theres also white knights here. Actually, a lot of people ingame I talk thinks theres too much withe knighting here.
    (0)

  7. #77
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    Avatar de Reslin
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    septembre 2013
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    Pharzyr Catro
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Arcaniste Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par TrystWildkey Voir le message
    I am getting really, REALLY tired of people saying that we all wanted the largest house right out of the gate.

    I'm also getting tired of people saying that the small houses are affordable.

    Check the prices on Durandal and come back and say the same thing.
    Not to mention the number of houses is limited. Many FC's won't get a house as other people with more time buys them up before they have a chance. Housing is extremely exclusive.
    (2)

  8. #78
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    Avatar de Dhex
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Maraudeur Lv 90
    (0)

  9. #79
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    Avatar de Welsper59
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    mars 2012
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Citation Envoyé par Sayura_ Voir le message
    Good ideas here.

    I'd just like to see an initial fee for "prime location" but everyone starts out with a small house and uses their resources to level the house up to the largest size.

    Can't afford a prime location? No problem, but at least you can start working on your house somewhere.
    Renovations/extensions to housing would have actually been a really nice thing to add. I'd imagine it'd be problematic though in devaluing land space. Plus, they might actually have some goal in mind about removing gil from the economy... meaning the prices are temporary (probably the reason the prices drop over time). We'll have to wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. If very few FCs buy housing, even as prices go down, I'm sure they'll step in on that. But if a healthy number of FCs buy land, which may be half of available land, then all went according to plan.

    Citation Envoyé par Reslin Voir le message
    Not to mention the number of houses is limited. Many FC's won't get a house as other people with more time buys them up before they have a chance. Housing is extremely exclusive.
    I recall something about them expanding availability if needed. For a good while though, I doubt that'll be an issue.
    (0)

  10. #80
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    Avatar de Phai
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    septembre 2013
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    Phai Mui
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiateur Lv 50
    Citation Envoyé par Reslin Voir le message
    Not to mention the number of houses is limited. Many FC's won't get a house as other people with more time buys them up before they have a chance. Housing is extremely exclusive.
    another limit to housing if im not mistaken: FC 50 member + medium house = cluster f**k?

    Its no house or its a house that feels like hiting retainer bell on primetime whit 7 Drg's that just found out they can jump.
    (2)

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