GOOD JOB YOSHI P!

[Scamperoo]

Ooo! Did I just trip into the white knight thread, can't say as I blame you for huddling together..used to belong here too until recently...then I woke up.

[Faelandaea]

Why is this such a controversy?

Fact: it is NOT a grind anyway. It is so stupidly easy to make money in this game it's not even funny. Even the smallest FC - even the "husband/wife" only FCs, will have housing within the first week, and you don;t even have to work for it.

I support the OP in thanking Yoshi for adding housing, but I also disagree that it is in ANY way a challenge or even a small workout. If you don't have the Gil already - then it's because you were sitting for the past few months on the market buying your way through levels instead of actually playing the game.

You see, you ARE trolling. You want to know why?

Because you couldn't just simply thank the developers, without also insulting and baiting the critics. This isn't about thanking YoshiP. This wasn't written for his benefit. It was written for yours, and those who agree. That's the problem with the lot of you people defending this patch. None of you can seem to express your joy with this thing, without also insulting those who don't. Because its less about the game, and more about reaffirming your game choice.

The people who take issue with this patch only started off hating the patch itself. We don't need to mention the people who disagree with our criticism, and didn't until you fankids started pulling all the cliche BS out, entitlement, whining/crying accusations, etc.

I completely agree. I wish he would have just thanked the Devs . . . I would have posted my thank you right below his. Instead, the topic became a debate over grind vs. challenge (which I replied to also . . . guilty!)

[RaiGIN]

I am loving this thread right now. I may be on the flush but I could of laughed my ass clean off regardless. I could FEEL how delusional Aruseth look at Aruseth's avatar and it is just a wee bit cock-eye'd. I'm not gonna argue because if I don't have the time to make 10 mil gil in the month I sure don't have any more time for this thread. But for those who are just getting here. LEAVE, there is nothing for anyone with a hint of a LIFE or LOGIC here. I am drinking so f**k both. What is your excuse for still being here?

Kudos to Zantetsuken for pointing out the already obvious trolling. +1 good sir, I like your hat!

[Eissels]

I've never understood why grinding is considered challenging. And it's not just gil that I've seen people advocate grinding for.

"SE needs to make the relics like in FF11, where it took six months to grind out all the materials! It was so challenging!"

Grinding is not challenging. The only "challenge" inherent in grinding is if you have the patience or free time for such mindless tedium.

Then, with this, comes the added "challenge" of praying your FC leader isn't enough of a douchebag to stab you all in the back after you help pitch in for some money. Truly, it's a mark of utmost required skill.

[Kyoreore]

FC housing as a challenge...lol. Here is a challenge, stop playing MMORPGs 24/7 and accomplish some stuff in the real world.

There's really no need to bring any sort of RL into this.

[PapesseLudovique]

I am loving this thread right now. I may be on the flush but I could of laughed my ass clean off regardless. I could FEEL how delusional Aruseth look at Aruseth's avatar and it is just a wee bit cock-eye'd. I'm not gonna argue because if I don't have the time to make 10 mil gil in the month I sure don't have any more time for this thread. But for those who are just getting here. LEAVE, there is nothing for anyone with a hint of a LIFE or LOGIC here. I am drinking so f**k both. What is your excuse for still being here?

Kudos to Zantetsuken for pointing out the already obvious trolling. +1 good sir, I like your hat!

Only fresh 20-somethings still bring up drinking as if its a thing to make a big deal of.

[Reslin]

I've never understood why grinding is considered challenging. And it's not just gil that I've seen people advocate grinding for.

"SE needs to make the relics like in FF11, where it took six months to grind out all the materials! It was so challenging!"

Grinding is not challenging. The only "challenge" inherent in grinding is if you have the patience or free time for such mindless tedium.

Then, with this, comes the added "challenge" of praying your FC leader isn't enough of a douchebag to stab you all in the back after you help pitch in for some money. Truly, it's a mark of utmost required skill.

They have the time and want to be part of an exclusive club because they've never been in one before. They've never completed or accomplished anything challenging. For once they get to be part of something special.

[coffeepotz]

Challenge: a call to take part in a contest or competition.

A challenge does not necessarily require skill. So stop saying it does.

[Faelandaea]

I've never understood why grinding is considered challenging. And it's not just gil that I've seen people advocate grinding for.

"SE needs to make the relics like in FF11, where it took six months to grind out all the materials! It was so challenging!"

Grinding is not challenging. The only "challenge" inherent in grinding is if you have the patience or free time for such mindless tedium.

Then, with this, comes the added "challenge" of praying your FC leader isn't enough of a douchebag to stab you all in the back after you help pitch in for some money. Truly, it's a mark of utmost required skill.

I have a sweetie and a life . . . no grinding for me. Doing WP over and over and over again is enough of a grind for DL. Chellenge? Nope. Because after the FIRST run, any moron could run that dungeon with one hand while eating dinner with the other . . . I know . . . this moron does it all the time XD

[Syrellaris]

I don't want FC housing as the way to be for everyone. I want individual housing, not even rooms within a FC house, no complete individual housing.

Individual housing all the way and it needs to be affordable. The economy on my server has gone to hell as every decent item is worth nothing in the disciples of the land abilities.