So.. who's leveling a SCH?

[Ashira]

It seems a few small changes are enough to make people abandon their class. SCH WHM is still the optimal healing setup, so you're still just as valuable as a WHM.

Have some faith in your class. Even if they have become the underdog; which I don't think they have, prove you're a good healer by still performing in spite of the changes.

[Kyomih]

It seems a few small changes are enough to make people abandon their class. SCH WHM is still the optimal healing setup, so you're still just as valuable as a WHM.

Have some faith in your class. Even if they have become the underdog; which I don't think they have, prove you're a good healer by still performing in spite of the changes.

I don't think the changes will make people switch classes (if it does then they should have played that other class from the start). I think most are just discussing the changes.

[Velox]

Even if they have become the underdog; which I don't think they have, prove you're a good healer by still performing in spite of the changes.

I think what's bothering most people is that, in this day and age, parties are all about "efficiency" and will happily drop the underdog to shave off 10 seconds from whatever mindless task the game requires them to do.

Many players feel that if these changes make the class harder to play (and thus, makes content harder), it will be pointless to carry them when they are just another gimp to the party. Not saying I agree with this, I'm just saying that MMO communities are slipping more and more into a cesspool of social ineptness. This affects even decent players because it makes it harder to complete party-required content. Just look at how many monks are requested for WP speedruns. It's not fair, but the reality of the current MMO world is that, if it's not "efficient," it's not worth doing.

I do wish they normalized mana usage between the two classes, with healing realistically being on par between them it confuses me why there is such a large discrepancy in mana still.

I agree 100%
Although I am not happy about some of the changes made to WHM, I am more than willing to learn to adapt. What bugs me is that SE didn't touch Shroud of Saints at all. In another thread I made 3 suggestions that wouldn't be too over-the-top if just one of them was implemented.
1. Scale SoS MP regen based on Level/Mind/etc
2. Decrease cooldown of SoS
3. Bring back some of the old MP-management abilities (converting HP to MP, converting damage to MP, etc)

[Ashira]

I think what's bothering most people is that, in this day and age, parties are all about "efficiency" and will happily drop the underdog to shave off 10 seconds from whatever mindless task the game requires them to do.

I don't disagree with your point; I agree that people will pretty much always take the most efficient group, for progression anyway. What I will say though is that SCH and WHM as a pair are still the most efficient combination. Two SCH cannot provide enhanced Stoneskin or Protect, and WHM are still the kings and queens of AoE healing.

[Eriane]

It seems a few small changes are enough to make people abandon their class. SCH WHM is still the optimal healing setup, so you're still just as valuable as a WHM.

Have some faith in your class. Even if they have become the underdog; which I don't think they have, prove you're a good healer by still performing in spite of the changes.

This isn't wow. I'm not talking rerolling a new toon, i was already high enough for Eye for eye. As soon as i hit 50 i'll get my relic, +1 it and sit pretty in the 7 ilvl 90 coil and myth pieces that carry over and i still have my darklight to fill the rest. (Not to mention the coil helm changes make it bis for sch anyway.)

Of course i'll still do fine on my whm. But with the changes i feel i can do better as a sch. Sch was powerful from the getgo, and with fairy changes there is nothing to hold people back.

Honestly many healers in coil have both, the fairy was just such a pain i didn't want to deal with it.

Just to address one thing. Its not that whm aoe healing mechanics are broken, its that game mechanics favor sch. Right now there are only a few select times where aoe burst healing (cure 3) is needed, thats why medica 2 was so useful and the fairy aoe remains useful, the healing was over time and you could hit the entire raid and didn't have to ask the raid to stack. Buffed or not if cure 3 is not needed then.... what? Even enrage in coil is easily handled with medica and allows for the whm to heal the ENTIRE raid including the tank.

And honestly, even if they do put out instances where cure 3 is suddenly needed.... its lower than ilvl 90 content anyway. I'll probably only run crystal tower on my blm alt when i'm bored.