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  1. #11
    Player
    Rikachu's Avatar
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    Rika Crendraven
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    I was actually reluctant about starting to play on Scholar when I unlocked it, but I'm actually really starting to dig it. I've been playing it mostly in dungeons, and so far it's great! Definatly a different feel from WHM, but I guess thats the point :3
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  2. #12
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Character
    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Play both proficiently, then pick the one that is demanded most with the event that is required for. No need to "jump ship" when it's possible to play / gear both up effectively as the only real gear that is not multi-class is the myth pieces and the weapons.

    [EDIT] Yes, BiS will affect your final gear choices, but it shouldn't affect your performance that dramatically that it'll cause you fail at your role if you are a proficient player.
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  3. #13
    Player
    Rikachu's Avatar
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    Character
    Rika Crendraven
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    Sophia
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Well my white mage is my best geared job, and I love it so no issue there. But I've wanted to level both for those situations when a Scholar might be more useful, or if someone prefers a scholar to white mage.
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  4. #14
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    SulwynCaliope's Avatar
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    Character
    Sulwyn Caliope
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    I'm confused as to why it seems like so many whms are acting like SE broke their class. They didn't. SCHs and WHMs STILL complement each other well. Even with better control over our pets, it's not like we're going to be able to raid heal that much more efficiently. Raid healing will still be and always will be WHMs specialty. What we got was a buff to our MT healing. SCHs have ALWAYS been superior at MT and single target healing. That hasn't changed at all. I agree that the change to Medica 2 is pretty retarded but it's hardly game breaking and is no reason for all you WHMs to suddenly jump ship.

    Also WHM/ WHM is still superior to SCH/ SCH regardless of the 5% lustrate buff.
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  5. #15
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    Bella Chia
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by YuiSasaki View Post
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    because people love to play effectively and be useful? idk

    but speaking technically, imo, CureIII is also a nerfed

    while, sure, the range got buffed by 2y
    and that only make CureIII is niche but nice, from it always being niche but nice

    on the other hand, triggered cure3 were better because guaranteed crit, can be used on single target for a little bit boost heal from cure2
    while new triggered just reduced halved MP, which almost the same MP consumption as cure2 yet it has less potency
    furthure more, when i actually throwing out cure2 is when i need to topped off a single target, not AoE

    now that make even less a reason to throw CureIII when triggered, make it even more a niche skill to me
    and that's a nerfed
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  6. #16
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    Kydat's Avatar
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    Kydat Kendayar
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    You guys don't have a geared whm and sch?

    Shameful!
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  7. #17
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by YuiSasaki View Post
    I find rather annoying to see ppl switch their class to the one that gets buffed...
    Do you find it strange that people don't want to be left out of runs?:/ Not saying now WHM is useless and nobody will want it around anymore, but if SCH can do the same and better...I'd sure prefer being that.
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  8. #18
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    Character
    Ice Beam
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 17
    Wow? didn't know 5% more on Lustrate made me an OP healer?

    Who would of thought, that 5% would make such a difference between the classes. I think SE should nerf it back to 20%. Clearly we're breaking the game.
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Kyomi Dreamweaver
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf_Gang View Post
    Wow? didn't know 5% more on Lustrate made me an OP healer?

    Who would of thought, that 5% would make such a difference between the classes. I think SE should nerf it back to 20%. Clearly we're breaking the game.
    SCH was already the go-to healer for current end game content even before the changes. High crit possibilities on tank, enmity danger, dips checks and high movement favour SCH mechanics. Ie for coil it was mostly advanced protect, virus rotation and medica II for after fireballs to get back to other tasks ASAP that made a WHM important To only mention one fight. Virus rotations are not possible any more either and favors the Lower CD Version of the SCH.

    In high end content it's more important to heal fast and medica II was solely used for its strong regen effect which is gone now. It's actually slightly weaker than Eos' aoe now ( granted on no cd but needs mp and stil generates aggro and uses up our CDs).

    Cure III is still stupid but they now force us to use it.

    Lustrate changes gives you a 70% heal every minute while WHM has a 100% heal every 5 minutes (and no added fairy to increase heal throughput)

    Not to mention the fairy changes made the fairy much better and frees a SCH to have more time to deal with her/his own tools.

    And just to mention this: I've played both WHM and SCH in coil so I am not just guessing. And with go-to I mean more important due to mechanics and how encounters work.
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    Last edited by Kyomih; 12-16-2013 at 04:11 AM.

  10. #20
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    It's not just Scholar buf itself, if it was that I think nobody would be jumping ship. Its that +WHM nerf. If you take two classes that were on par, both same role, and buff one and nerf the other...results are obvious.
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