WHAT?! 625 Million for first class House?

[senjyo]

Out of that 50 pages of patch note, if people going to quit because of one page of content which mainly affect less than 10% of the total population (assuming the price is too "high"). All I got to say is, good bye, and hope to not see you again.

P.S then again, if you can't afford the best and biggest piece of land, then you should probably look at 5th class plot and small land. Just because you can't afford the Ferrari, doesn't mean it is the end of the world. There is Audi, Toyota, Honda out there. If you still can't afford those, then maybe you are not playing hard enough. Tough shit, there is no free lunch.

[Rose_Vilehart]

Out of that 50 pages of patch note, if people going to quit because of one page of content which mainly affect less than 10% of the total population (assuming the price is too "high"). All I got to say is, good bye, and hope to not see you again.

P.S then again, if you can't afford the best and biggest piece of land, then you should probably look at 5th class plot and small land. Just because you can't afford the Ferrari, doesn't mean it is the end of the world. There is Audi, Toyota, Honda out there. If you still can't afford those, then maybe you are not playing hard enough. Tough shit, there is no free lunch.

Incoming: you are a bad person rants
I however agree with you completely

[cearka]

If you play 16 hours a day (I said hardcore))

if you have time to play that much a day, you're likely either a child, unemployed and living in your parents basement, or some sort of trust fund child.

[shikarin]

if you have time to play that much a day, you're likely either a child, unemployed and living in your parents basement, or some sort of trust fund child.

I mentioned it as a possibility. I did start out with the more reasonable assertion that 4 people playing normally can earn 20m gil in 3-4 weeks.

That said, do you look down on people based on how much they like to play games, something that does not concern you in the slightest? Just a thought.

[Kinseykinz]

Although we've already established you don't know how to make gil, so again not surprised that's what you would think.

But since you can't argue against me on any point relevant to gameplay, it's only natural you would resort to attacking character.

Did it ever occur to you as a player on a 'new' world that when talking to a player on a 'legacy' world the economies don't work the same...and furthermore. Lets just say you DO both belong to a Free Company filled with 80 active members. Lets say you are aiming for a medium house on the best plot:

On Faerie that house =30Mil (or about 375K a person)...which I AGREE is a reasonable amount for that sized house and FC to pay.
On Hyperion that SAME plot/house=94ish Mil (or about 1.18MIL per person) ...more than 3times your servers price point.

Oh and btw for the 'biggest and best' on Faerie=1.56ish Milx 80 FC members on Hyperion=3.9Milx80 FC members

I am a legacy player. I personally have a solid bank account. Some others in my FC have more than me, but many have less. Still, I see no reason in bankrupting myself for something that is:
1. Vanity
2. Not personally mine
3. Not priced fair across all servers
4.Something that can just cause poor feelings/tension in a FC...and the bigger the FC, the more likely the tensions are.

[Richiealvian]

if you have time to play that much a day, you're likely either a child, unemployed and living in your parents basement, or some sort of trust fund child.

Or an entrepreneur with a loving gamer family and massive passive income =)

[Aenarion]

I mentioned it as a possibility. I did start out with the more reasonable assertion that 4 people playing normally can earn 20m gil in 3-4 weeks.

Sigh, making money off other players will not work when everyone is trying to do the same thing. If the entire server is trying to save up money to buy houses, who's going to purchase your goods?

[shikarin]

Did it ever occur to you as a player on a 'new' world that when talking to a player on a 'legacy' world the economies don't work the same...and furthermore. Lets just say you DO both belong to a Free Company filled with 80 active members. Lets say you are aiming for a medium house on the best plot:

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No, they work the same. Because, oh... I dunno, it's the same game?

Above anything, it is time that matters, not gil. There can be an argument made about the fairness of solely basing costs on gil in circulation, if that is what they did. But that was not my point in this series of posts.

It's simply that 20m gil is not supremely difficult to get.

[shikarin]

Sigh, making money off other players will not work when everyone is trying to do the same thing. If the entire server is trying to save up money to buy houses, who's going to purchase your goods?

"Everyone saving up money to buy houses" is not a fair generalization to make.

As Kinseykinz so conveniently just demonstrated, there are probably plenty of people who don't want to buy a house, and would rather spend their gil to purchase my goods.

[indira]

it will drop if no one buys a home SE will say "it cost too much no one is using our housing system. we need to make futher adjustments". we all know it wont happen people will hit up there favorite RMT website.

so now we have multi-million dollar homes for sell and no money coming from the MW since people are knocking down prices so much its stupid. mats are costing more then the end items so you lose money on that, mats are being undercut to 50%-75% or the typical sale then it changes to that low price. if you under cut you just need to do it by one gil.