WHAT?! 625 Million for first class House?

[shikarin]

LOL, yea, 20mil in less than a week these days my ass, what are you selling, magic fairy dust? While it would've been doable on legacy servers at the beginning, these days when nothing is worth jack shit because nobody needs anything, I'd like to see how any one person, much less any significant number of players, can make 20mil a week

If you play 16 hours a day (I said hardcore), and maintain about 4-5 different revenue sources, yes you can just about legitimately make 20m in one week. Dual box doesn't hurt, not absolutely necessary, but might make your life a little easier.

(and yes that is solo. If you're running a group, then it will be somewhat easier for each person to earn 20m)

[cearka]

If you play 16 hours a day (I said hardcore))

if you have time to play that much a day, you're likely either a child, unemployed and living in your parents basement, or some sort of trust fund child.

[shikarin]

if you have time to play that much a day, you're likely either a child, unemployed and living in your parents basement, or some sort of trust fund child.

I mentioned it as a possibility. I did start out with the more reasonable assertion that 4 people playing normally can earn 20m gil in 3-4 weeks.

That said, do you look down on people based on how much they like to play games, something that does not concern you in the slightest? Just a thought.

[Aenarion]

I mentioned it as a possibility. I did start out with the more reasonable assertion that 4 people playing normally can earn 20m gil in 3-4 weeks.

Sigh, making money off other players will not work when everyone is trying to do the same thing. If the entire server is trying to save up money to buy houses, who's going to purchase your goods?

[shikarin]

Sigh, making money off other players will not work when everyone is trying to do the same thing. If the entire server is trying to save up money to buy houses, who's going to purchase your goods?

"Everyone saving up money to buy houses" is not a fair generalization to make.

As Kinseykinz so conveniently just demonstrated, there are probably plenty of people who don't want to buy a house, and would rather spend their gil to purchase my goods.

[Aenarion]

"Everyone saving up money to buy houses" is not a fair generalization to make.

But using numbers that only a small number of people can achieve in a small system like 14's as the norm is? I've made that amount in that time frame alone by myself, doesn't mean I'm blind to the large picture.

As Kinseykinz so conveniently just demonstrated, there are probably plenty of people who don't want to buy a house, and would rather spend their gil to purchase my goods.

You may want to read his comments again, this time without taking it out of the context of the ridiculous housing price.

[shikarin]

But using numbers that only a small number of people can achieve in a small system like 14's as the norm is? I've made that amount in that time frame alone by myself, doesn't mean I'm blind to the large picture.

Yes, I think saying most people on the server, in groups of 4, can make 20m in 4 weeks is fair.

and I disagree.

What numbers are you basing this on? For something that the majority of the player base can do at the same time in an economy with so little consumption as 14's, it'll have to be from a gil-fountain source.

Maybe i've missed something, but last time I checked leves and such doesn't generate 1.25mil per week, which, btw, comes out to approx. 1700-1800 leves, or about 600 dungeon runs.

Can't post anymore so I'll put it here. =p

It's a good question so I want to give the answer. Don't need numbers. Why? Because earning 20m is not the same as taking 20m out of the economy. Therefore the rate at which gil is generated does not matter. It's kind of a loophole yes. =p I said it's possible for most people on the server to earn 20m a week. I didn't say it's possible for most people on the server to earn 20m a week and then never spend any of it. Again, goes back to my earlier point about how not everyone is looking to buy a house. Especially considering a house has no practical value in relation to combat aspects of gameplay. In a way, currency can be used as a measure of production. You can think of it as 4 people, after 4 weeks of reasonable playing, can earn the equivalent value of a small fifth-class plot of land. Arguing about whether people can earn gil as an end in itself is meaningless. Gil itself does nothing.

[Richiealvian]

if you have time to play that much a day, you're likely either a child, unemployed and living in your parents basement, or some sort of trust fund child.

Or an entrepreneur with a loving gamer family and massive passive income =)