WHAT?! 625 Million for first class House?

[Arrowny]

Thanks, I'll make sure to inform everyone in my FC that we are terrible at the game and should quit because we can't afford the 20 million gil smallest size house on day 1. I swear to god some of you people would defend any stupid decision made. I guess the ideal attitude for MMOs nowadays is to just bow down and worship every bad thing tossed your way, even when it's a flaming bag of feces. Otherwise you aren't playing the game right!

And those same people wonder why they have a nearly dead game that is forced to transition to ftp to keep a float. Guess what white knights. you won! the people you told to eat -insert companies name here - crap and like it like its the best thing ever leave. Seen this happen time and time again. They are left wondering where are the people, why are they not liking the best game eva. You have to have some compromise and at least listen to the sub base or they will LEAVE.

[cearka]

prices on legacy servers are almost like a big Pointy arrow that says "hey look, our FC buys Gil"

[Shadow_Novus]

take it easy guys. In the event you're one of the lucky people on the 5 servers with the highest price, after 90 days the price will drop to a real steal at ~325 million!

Where's that "Rent is too damn high" pic when you need it...

[Rose_Vilehart]

*snip*

read the second part and then go back and read my previous posts, i said legacy players have a right to complain, im annoying by the amount of non legacy player complaining here.

[Ozz]

I admit I have been a huge supporter of SE and the direction they have taken a realm reborn ever since alpha, perhaps I have been borderline white knight. I am totaly disheartened with the housing prices and it contradicts all previous statements from YoshiP about pricing. We have a small FC with about 40 active members and have been saving flat out for 6 weeks to 2 months and still couldnt afford even the most scrub house. We thought we had been saving well and coming together as a community towards a common goal.I cannot fathom how players could have legitimately afford these prices playing the game using quests, levelling, markets etc as a gil earning source. I would never buy gil from an RMT but I can see this problem getting worse now as free companies flock to buy gil for housing. I now even wonder whether Square enix themselves have a hand in RMT for gil, imagine the shareholders and executives bonus' from the revenue this will generate to RMT sources. Totally bummed.

[AunaYuuki]

I guess everyone's gonna be fighting over the crappy lower-class lvl 5 houses on Excalibur unless you have 312,500,000.

[Dgsoil]

Well I'm sorry for saying the truth. If you can't afford it then yeah you're terrible at making gil.

4 people playing the game reasonably, say 20 hours a week, can easily make 20 million in 3-4 weeks. And no I do not mean farming one thing day-in day-out. If you're playing hardcore, one person can make 20 mil in less than a week.

"You aren't playing the game right?" What a stupid argument (not surprised). You want to complain that you can't get housing if you have no idea how to earn gil? Then why not complain that you can't get allagan if you don't know how to clear coil? Or how you can't earn PvP gear if you can't PvP. zzz

Right, you win this debate. I'm terrible, I don't play right because I help people and don't charge for every time I help carry people through titan. And those people in my FC who aren't even level 50 yet because they have busy lives are terrible too. It isn't about not being able to afford the house, it's about your outrageous claim that the only way to be good at an MMO is to play the way YOU do. Thankfully there is only one of you in the world. And unfortunately, there is one of you in the world.

[Craiger]

My FC is a large community...

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Two months and you haven't got the money for the small pot ? -_- Large community ? o.O

Sorry, but that's just bad donations.... I'm not saying everyone should give millions of gil, but if you have a goal (buying a house), then you would get enough money to buy the small plot in no time. If you're on a legacy server, then that's another thing, but if your not, you can't complain.

The small plot (5th rank) costs 4-8 million on non-legacy servers. I don't know how many you are in your FC, but you said it was a big one... Lets say 80 players. That's 50,000-100,000 gil per player... -_- Do you still not see how easy it would be to get that money ? Even a very small FC could afford this if they just started to donate some bigger sums...

I'm certainly not rich in this game (I'm pretty poor actually), but I could still pretty easily get money for some donation to my small 30 man FC....

[Moontide]

Boy, the RMT business is gonna be happy about the sudden need for loads of gil. Not sure I'd be wanting to see that.

[shikarin]

Right, you win this debate. I'm terrible, I don't play right because I help people and don't charge for every time I help carry people through titan. And those people in my FC who aren't even level 50 yet because they have busy lives are terrible too. It isn't about not being able to afford the house, it's about your outrageous claim that the only way to be good at an MMO is to play the way YOU do. Thankfully there is only one of you in the world.

Because charging for titan is the only way to make gil in this game right? I mean, damn if only you could do those solo titan carries, you too can make 20m gil in less than a week, like I said.

Although we've already established you don't know how to make gil, so again not surprised that's what you would think.

But since you can't argue against me on any point relevant to gameplay, it's only natural you would resort to attacking character.