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  1. #291
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sotek View Post
    Furniture market was dead on arrival anyway, for Free Company housing at least, personal housing might be a different story. Most Free Companies should already be able to craft furniture themselves, even those that cant... Furniture was never going to be a good market anyway, outside the trophies from Primals/Coil. Materials are too cheap, and with no need to HQ... Yeah...

    Ideally though, they should have made it so we actually have to build the house. Like I said earlier though, that would just mean gatherers/crafters would be screwing you out of Gil, instead of SE. Rather than "I can't get that much Gil!", we'd have "I can't get that many Logs!" instead, too...
    I'm sorry, but SE doesn't count as the player community. at least with crafters that gil can be circulated into other purchases and activities, like a proper economy.

    But no, we can't trust crafters, gil needs to be worthless just like in the game, so that SE can use it to wall off progression in every other activity!
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    Last edited by Kallera; 12-15-2013 at 07:27 AM.

  2. #292
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    Stanelis's Avatar
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    Irvy Ryath
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 85
    Housing is new content. Just like every other piece of new content, it is not meant to be consumed on day one. This something to work towards as of 2.1, that's why they've balanced the prices as they have. Any Gil you've accumulated before hand is a head start.
    The housing content actually starts when the land is bought and you start to build your stuff and put furniture inside. Gill farming is not housing content.
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  3. #293
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    Yuwia's Avatar
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    Yuwia Yamaneko
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I want to make a good arguement...but i cant help but LOL at all the white knights...
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  4. #294
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    PlanckZero's Avatar
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    Braxis Abraxas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    There is zero reason for anyone to even buy housing right now... hell there is going to be little reason until at least the next update or more likely further than that.

    What do you get out of housing as of this update? You get a house you can place furniture in and... that's it...

    You won't have retainer access in FC housing until 2.3, nor will you have access to an aetheryte. Chocobo breeding? Future update. Basement airship workshop? Future update. Gardening? Future update. In game FC tools like message/note boards? Future update.

    As things stand right now the housing system is an expensive vanity project for people that like to play house. It will be used by people that frequent RMT sites and scoff at the price or legitimate groups that love being the first to do something and have far more money than they have common sense.
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    Last edited by PlanckZero; 12-15-2013 at 07:30 AM.

  5. #295
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    SinSilverwing's Avatar
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    Yarothgar Astolla
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by travenkirkwall View Post
    you need to change the prices or i am afraid a riot will start.
    A riot will start? Its already started man grab your torch and pitch forks!
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  6. #296
    Player Arriverderci's Avatar
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    Noel Kreiss
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlanckZero View Post
    There is zero reason for anyone to even buy housing right now.
    So people can do something other than kill a knife-wielding lizard 500000000 times a day.
    I guess Animal Crossing: New Leaf will keep me entertained for 6 months.
    But who is to say P.Housing won't have jacked up asshole prices?
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  7. #297
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuwia View Post
    I want to make a good arguement...but i cant help but LOL at all the white knights...
    Same here. While I can see their points about putting forth the effort to make something happen, trying to defend the prices (namely the lower prices) people are upset over is something I can't seem to wrap my head around. To the highest prices, I say knock themselves out if they want to spend that much. If you have the gil I don't see the problem there.
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  8. #298
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    Odd's Avatar
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    Tiri Thon
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I'm just happy that FC housing was like, the eighth highest thing I was looking forward to.
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  9. #299
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    Evenstar's Avatar
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    Evenstar Wanderlust
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by PlanckZero View Post
    There is zero reason for anyone to even buy housing right now... hell there is going to be little reason until at least 2.3 or more likely 2.4 and beyond.

    What do you get out of housing as of this update? You get a house you can place furniture in and... that's it...

    You won't have retainer access in FC housing until 2.3, nor will you have access to an aetheryte. Chocobo breeding? Future update. Basement airship workshop? Future update. Gardening? Future update. In game FC tools like message/note boards? Future update.

    As things stand right now the housing system is an expensive vanity project for people that like to play house. It will be used by people that frequent RMT sites and scoff at the price or legitimate groups that love being the first to do something and have far more money than they have common sense.
    Oh, come on, I beg you guys stop defending this matter, please.

    They have been telling us FC housing is coming for months now, MONTHS. It was one of the main content parts of 2.1, lots of people were looking forward to it. They promoted it in such way for weeks or even months. Now, out of nowhere they ask crazy prices. The reason for those prices are not because they want it to be for the elite only. SE is using the housing system to cover their own mistakes. They let bots and RMT destroy the market since the early access period and now they are trying to cover it up and fix it buy removing huge amounts of gil from the system.

    You have to be blind fan boy to not see this. I have defended FFXIV a lot, I played 1.0 until the serves went down, I have legacy status and I am pretty hardcore orientated in general, but this is ridiculous and I can not find any possible way to defend this.
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  10. #300
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    axemtitanium's Avatar
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    Titania Basilikos
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by cainejw View Post
    Could you give a source for this bullshit, good sir? 'cause it seems to me that you just made up a bunch of numbers straight from your anal cavity.
    Care to rebut intelligently?



    Quote Originally Posted by Ferr View Post
    20 people isnt apropiate for a small house.
    So what is appropriate for a small house?
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