I think they nerfed SMNS

[Kunimatsu]

This isn't the pet AI update we were looking for, this is only adding more frustrations. So now if we want to manually apply contagion we now have to manually hit garuda's auto attack? <_< I really hope this is an error.

[Ragnirok]

This isn't the pet AI update we were looking for, this is only adding more frustrations. So now if we want to manually apply contagion we now have to manually hit garuda's auto attack? <_< I really hope this is an error.

i'm sure its an error. if anything they made pet AI even worse somehow with this change.

[Nemhy]

i'm sure its an error. if anything they made pet AI even worse somehow with this change.

they made it better for Scholar. these changes, with the 15% dps nerf, and allagan boot change taking a hard hit at our itemization.

[paradigmfellow]

they made it better for Scholar. these changes, with the 15% dps nerf, and allagan boot change taking a hard hit at our itemization.

What where they thinking when they thought about all of this? I want a dev response to all of this.

[Kunimatsu]

Yeah i'm sorta glad they fixed SCH since I play that too, but making SMN into a button mash contest in the process isn't the way to go. We shouldn't have to choose between "Blow all cooldown moves ASAP" or "Do nothing at all"

[PenutButter]

Yeah i'm sorta glad they fixed SCH since I play that too.

Yea, that seems to be all that really matters: "I play that too."

I do agree with the QQing here though; I fail to see the point in taking away Thunder but I'm conflicted on the AI changes. It does give SMN a bit more options and the issues presented here can be made up for with effective pet micro-management (which I actually like). The lazy and the shitty will definitely not like it though. Overall though, I don't expect that there will be any major impacts on SMN (except maybe the AI changes for those who can't adjust).

[paradigmfellow]

Yea, that seems to be all that really matters: "I play that too."

I do agree with the QQing here though; I fail to see the point in taking away Thunder but I'm conflicted on the AI changes. It does give SMN a bit more options and the issues presented here can be made up for with effective pet micro-management (which I actually like). The lazy and the shitty will definitely not like it though. Overall though, I don't expect that there will be any major impacts on SMN (except maybe the AI changes for those who can't adjust).

Think of it like this. How are we going to maximize our dps now when we have start hitting Garuda's "auto-attack" and miss out on possible ruin spams, redotting, or effectively handle our time while raging strike is on. Garuda is just going to sit there most of the time.



I don't mind that they fixed sch. I also play with sch. However, they should not have done it at the expense of SMNS.

[jlewiss]

Yea, that seems to be all that really matters: "I play that too."

I do agree with the QQing here though; I fail to see the point in taking away Thunder but I'm conflicted on the AI changes. It does give SMN a bit more options and the issues presented here can be made up for with effective pet micro-management (which I actually like). The lazy and the shitty will definitely not like it though. Overall though, I don't expect that there will be any major impacts on SMN (except maybe the AI changes for those who can't adjust).

It isn't an issue of being lazy now not only do we have to have our rotation down but we also have to be responsible for keeping our pet using their basic attack as well as using contagion. TBH I wanted more pet interaction but not in that sense.

[Ragnirok]

What where they thinking when they thought about all of this? I want a dev responds to all of this.

this is actually something i was just talking about. the NA forums rarely if ever get any communication from devs. And its starting to show because none of these changes were really talked about at all. They just kinda dropped a bomb on us. I guess i'm just used to companies like riot and blizzard communicating through forums more often.
Some communication would be appreciated so we could clarify some of the poor translation on the patch notes. There are things missing from the Japanese patch notes as well. its just all in all poorly communicated.

[paradigmfellow]

this is actually something i was just talking about. the NA forums rarely if ever get any communication from devs. And its starting to show because none of these changes were really talked about at all. They just kinda dropped a bomb on us. I guess i'm just used to companies like riot and blizzard communicating through forums more often.
Some communication would be appreciated so we could clarify some of the poor translation on the patch notes. There are things missing from the Japanese patch notes as well. its just all in all poorly communicated.

I wish I knew Japanese to know if there is a similar backlash in the Japanese forums.