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    I think they nerfed SMNS

    sourse http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a

    Thunder can no longer be used as an additional skill by Disciples of Magic.

    The following changes have been made to pet actions:
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    When set to Obey and Steady, pets will only execute actions when commanded, and will remain in the Steady stance.


    Are you saying that not only did you take a dot from us, but Garuda will no longer do her normal attack on obey!?!?!?!?
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    Last edited by paradigmfellow; 12-15-2013 at 05:13 AM.

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    I hope they obey/steady change is just something lost in translation or something along those lines. I would like to think that the developers are smarter thent hat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnirok View Post
    I hope they obey/steady change is just something lost in translation or something along those lines. I would like to think that the developers are smarter thent hat

    I hope so too. I am still pissed about thunder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnirok View Post
    I hope they obey/steady change is just something lost in translation or something along those lines. I would like to think that the developers are smarter thent hat
    I'd agree, but giving us blizzard II, an AOE that focuses around you, when we're supposed to keep away is a really dumb move. Also without umbral ice. dat MP cost+having to ruinspam anyway? Jesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faris View Post
    I'd agree, but giving us blizzard II, an AOE that focuses around you, when we're supposed to keep away is a really dumb move. Also without umbral ice. dat MP cost+having to ruinspam anyway? Jesus.
    well can be a new combo with miasma2...if they just boost it ^^ but now umbrella ice has 50 potency instead of 100 so...bleah WTF
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    Quote Originally Posted by xardus View Post
    well can be a new combo with miasma2...if they just boost it ^^ but now umbrella ice has 50 potency instead of 100 so...bleah WTF
    I can't get on blm now to check, but the MP cost of blizzard II at 50 without umbral ice is pretty hefty. Combined with the fact we will have to ruinspam now, it's really not looking good for our longterm MP stock, aetherflow or not. Personally, as well, I'd be wary about doing something like that around stuff when most things in this game spam their own aoes like noones business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faris View Post
    I can't get on blm now to check, but the MP cost of blizzard II at 50 without umbral ice is pretty hefty. Combined with the fact we will have to ruinspam now, it's really not looking good for our longterm MP stock, aetherflow or not. Personally, as well, I'd be wary about doing something like that around stuff when most things in this game spam their own aoes like noones business.
    well without thunder we gain 212 mp at every dot refresh...not a big advantage but better than nothing,allow to cast 2x ruin2 but still dsnt worth the lost
    mana can be a problem,but on most boss u cant go under him to cast miasma2or blizzard2 so its pretty unusefull,its good only in t4 for just 1 wave...bah i dont understand whats the point in this changes,maybe they just didnt think that smn is nerfed with this changes,noone of theme is plaing it
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    This isn't the pet AI update we were looking for, this is only adding more frustrations. So now if we want to manually apply contagion we now have to manually hit garuda's auto attack? <_< I really hope this is an error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kunimatsu View Post
    This isn't the pet AI update we were looking for, this is only adding more frustrations. So now if we want to manually apply contagion we now have to manually hit garuda's auto attack? <_< I really hope this is an error.
    i'm sure its an error. if anything they made pet AI even worse somehow with this change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnirok View Post
    i'm sure its an error. if anything they made pet AI even worse somehow with this change.
    they made it better for Scholar. these changes, with the 15% dps nerf, and allagan boot change taking a hard hit at our itemization.
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