Coil Turn 5 /weapon level 95 logic

[Pinworms]

Can't blame Titan kill sells completely. Those contributed to only a fraction of the populace in getting their relics...the baddies or the ones that group with baddies. I dont think anyone can even begin to guess how many people actually bought their win. While it plays a part, I think it was just a small part of the overall picture.

[Darkshneider]

Im fine with them making them i95.gives me a greater psush to do twintania..also some people are so melodramatic "oh,now my relic is useless" useless means 0 dmg,0 stats.Im perfectly happy with my relic,and it will serve me well nontheless.

[Dannythm]

if it's horizontal you wanted this is not the game for that.

Yeah I know, and I'm sad for that, because the FFXIV I played and loved was vertical and horizontal.

Now this game is a joke of it's former self, and I can assure you that when any other game launches that offers me what the original version offered me, I'll be leaving, but for now I'll stay because there's nothing better to play.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Maybe this is an old FFXI mentality, but shouldn't "relic" weapons be the ultimate weapons that players can acquire?

Yes, it's the old FFXI mentality. If these weapons would be called AF weapons (as they where tentatively called) no one would never argue about being "something there should be exclusive, best in slot forever"

[zdub303]

Maybe this is an old FFXI mentality, but shouldn't "relic" weapons be the ultimate weapons that players can acquire? What's the point if these allagan weapons get an ilvl boost? At least add something in with the extreme mode primals to let us +2 our relics or something.

Hopefully they've learned their lesson with how pitifully easy +1 relic was to acquire. The mist should have dropped in turn 4, at around 3-4 of them per week. Relic +2 shouldn't drop anywhere before turn 8 and preferably turn 9 come 2.2.

If you want them to be the absolute best in the game, then they should drop from the hardest content. In that case turn 5 for +1 and turn 10 (supposedly) for +2 and absolutely no earlier.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Yeah I know, and I'm sad for that, because the FFXIV I played and loved was vertical and horizontal.

Now this game is a joke of it's former self, and I can assure you that when any other game launches that offers me what the original version offered me, I'll be leaving, but for now I'll stay because there's nothing better to play.

the original ffxiv wasn't this linear, but it wasn't even near the concept of horizontal progression. Lol

[Twiddle]

Greetings,

Since the number of adventurers that are earning the relic +1 weapons is higher than we originally anticipated, the team felt that increasing the item level of the Binding Coil weapons would prove to be a nice motivational boost that would encourage more players to challenge this difficult content.

What OP is saying is, are you planing to spread none weapon loot from T5 to T's 1-4, and have only weapons as possible T5 loot. If my armor is from T5 i would expect it same ilvl as anything else that drops from there.
My ilvl90 armor from coil should be no more out of reach, then armor for the next job over. Make all T5 loot ilvl95, or remove it from T5 and spread it in T1-4.

[Luminessence]

Maybe this is an old FFXI mentality, but shouldn't "relic" weapons be the ultimate weapons that players can acquire? What's the point if these allagan weapons get an ilvl boost? At least add something in with the extreme mode primals to let us +2 our relics or something.

I can agree with this, even a unique weapon skill hailing from the symbolic reference (Excalibur - Knights of The Round, for example) would be a pretty nice way to spruce up Relics. Or even an "Occasionally enhances Jump effect" or "Cure effect" would be interesting.

I feel they're losing their value quite quickly, I understand the game is still getting onto its feet, but relics are meant to be the ultimate manifestations of strength of the soul of the job one is playing.

[Synra]

I don't like this coming weapon change.

I like how this game is giving me multiple options for equipmet. There is no single option. Darklight vs Vanya. AF+1 vs Coil armor. Relic +1 vs Coil weapon.

Your Relic (80) should be the requirement for starting coil. From there, you have two options for obtaining a level 90 weapon. Either spend three weeks worth of Myths to upgrade your relic (instead of buying armor), or you can obtain the weapon from Coil. It's a matter of time vs difficulty.

If these two costs are disproportionate, then you should fix the cost, NOT upgrade one weapon to 95. Either increase the Myth cost on the relic +1, or reduce the difficulty of Coil, so that it's more practical for players to obtain that weapon instead.

This is why I feel upgrading the Coil weapon to 95 is not the right way of going about this.

[Tupsi]

I can agree with this, even a unique weapon skill hailing from the symbolic reference (Excalibur - Knights of The Round, for example) would be a pretty nice way to spruce up Relics. Or even an "Occasionally enhances Jump effect" or "Cure effect" would be interesting.

I feel they're losing their value quite quickly, I understand the game is still getting onto its feet, but relics are meant to be the ultimate manifestations of strength of the soul of the job one is playing.

Yeah, the Relics in 1.2x used to do this and we had gear which originally enhances effects, i.e original Darklight for mages enhanced Regen effect and regen didn't originally make monsters want to hate you outright (it worked like regen in XI.)