Coil Turn 5 /weapon level 95 logic

[Pellegri]

This is a devaluation of the relic weapons. They mean nothing, what is more, they are a given if you want to do something now days.

How is it devaluing anything? Relic weapons are not going down in stats or ilvl, you actually need to upgrade them to even kill Twintania in the first place. Devaluing them is making them an absolute joke to get in the first place whether it's just the base weapon or upgrading it.

There's a problem when relic +1 is on par with allagan weapons and to even get allagan weapons you need upgraded relics. How is it a bad thing that you need a certain piece of gear(or in Twintania's case almost all ilvl 90) to get an even better piece of gear? This is how vertical progression works and it's been known since they launched 2.0 that this game would be vertical like 95% of mmos out there, if it's horizontal you wanted this is not the game for that.

Maybe this is an old FFXI mentality, but shouldn't "relic" weapons be the ultimate weapons that players can acquire? What's the point if these allagan weapons get an ilvl boost? At least add something in with the extreme mode primals to let us +2 our relics or something.

You'll get something in 2.2 when they bring out harder content and gear that will be above ilvl 90. However if it's nearly as easy to upgrade as it is now then you will again have a last boss at the end of turn 10 that will drop something better than relic +2.