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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    My guess is they will have enfeebles like paralyze.
    Not likely. Game design doesn't permit that. Crap solo, broken in parties, ruins balance for endgame content. Same reason BRD isn't made of 9 songs and 2 attacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    How about making Red Mage a tank? Black magic attacks (or black magic infused within the Mages weapon) and white magic for mitigation/self heals?
    Magic attached to weapon is Mystic Knight, not Red Mage. Would definitely like to see Mystic Knight and Red Mage both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Don't know if you ever played WoW, but they could work like an Enhancement Shaman which was a class that utilized both offensive magic and melee attacks in it's skill set. I can see RDM pulling this off. Would have to sacrifice healing however. With FFXIV's setup, one job can't be both a DPS and a healer. Perhaps in it's class form, but jobs have to have a specific specialty.
    I think you can have a token healing spell (BLM and SMN have Physick, after all), but I would agree that you could have nothing major unless the second job is a dedicated healer. Would have to focus on damage aspect of White Magic -- Harm/Dia, namely. No Dia in the game ATM, leaving it open, but there's also no holy aspect, so /shrug. You'd have to pick between DPS/healer and DPS/tank -- no healer means no healing spells (odd for Red Mage); but no healer in the series uses swords, and a Red Mage without a sword is not a Red Mage at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nahara View Post
    Padjal can never happen because not enough of them exist to justify them being a playable race.
    Kind of like male miqo'te?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Kind of like male miqo'te?
    Cheeky, but I'm just recounting what I've heard. I honestly don't know and haven't found where this information came from, since the FFWiki doesn't cite it's source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Not likely. Game design doesn't permit that. Crap solo, broken in parties, ruins balance for endgame content. Same reason BRD isn't made of 9 songs and 2 attacks.
    I would be willing to wager money that they will have paralyze and en-spells.

    Not sure why you think paralyze would be crap solo, or broken in parties. I don't understand the basis for you opinions.

    I'm sure some bosses would be immune to it, as they were in FF11. But many monsters use paralyze and en-spells presently. They are already built into the game design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    I would be willing to wager money that they will have paralyze and en-spells.
    If the only thing a move did was apply a debuff, it's useless on bosses that would be immune to said debuff. Even abilities like Shield Bash and Leg Sweep are useful on creatures immune to stun because of the damage of the attack itself.

    Enspells are fairly useless as elemental spells because monsters don't really have any elemental weaknesses or resistances to capitalize on. If anything, they'd probably be similar to the PGL/MNK's "Fists of" abilities and provide some kind of appropriately themed buff based on the element.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nahara View Post
    If the only thing a move did was apply a debuff, it's useless on bosses that would be immune to said debuff. Even abilities like Shield Bash and Leg Sweep are useful on creatures immune to stun because of the damage of the attack itself.

    Enspells are fairly useless as elemental spells because monsters don't really have any elemental weaknesses or resistances to capitalize on. If anything, they'd probably be similar to the PGL/MNK's "Fists of" abilities and provide some kind of appropriately themed buff based on the element.
    I agree. If the boss is immune to it, then it would be useless.

    It would still be a useful spell generally though. But I'm not against giving it an added effect.
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