Vote Kick if watching cut scene? Dev Pls Respond

[ChriskoOnAnotherLevel]

I do not think you understand how things work, mainly life in general.

The majority of the public wants a vote to kick feature, of course this comes with many limitations to attempt to keep people from abusing, but YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.

A vote to kick feature serves one purpose and one purpose only, TO KICK a person or persons out of the group due to majority vote.

The reason does not matter, sorry it really does not.

If you are in a group of 8 and NO one else needs to watch CS, sorry but they should have the right to vote kick you. What else would it be for?

I myself do not use the DF to find party members, but with the new features coming up on 2.1 I likely will quite often.

If I get qued with someone who is wasting the parties time by randomly afking and not doing their best to progress the dungeon I should have the right to initiate a vote kick.

Sorry if the reason behind the vote kick bothers you, but that is life, grow up a bit.

[Zakalwe]

I do not think you understand how things work, mainly life in general.

The majority of the public wants a vote to kick feature, of course this comes with many limitations to attempt to keep people from abusing, but YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.

A vote to kick feature serves one purpose and one purpose only, TO KICK a person or persons out of the group due to majority vote.

The reason does not matter, sorry it really does not.

If you are in a group of 8 and NO one else needs to watch CS, sorry but they should have the right to vote kick you. What else would it be for?

I myself do not use the DF to find party members, but with the new features coming up on 2.1 I likely will quite often.

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Sorry if the reason behind the vote kick bothers you, but that is life, grow up a bit.

Very sad...

[Pandastirfry]

Very sad...

How exactly is what he said "sad" he merely pointed out that, if your wants and desires are not inline with those of the rest of the group, then it is their right to remove you. It's the point of a well used kick function.

The way I look at all this is sorta like going to lunch with a group of co-workers, the group decided to get Italian, but you really wanted Chinese. Do you stamp your feet and demand to be accommodated, or do you suck it up and get Italian, or do you decide to just not go with them and find some other group that wants Chinese. Two of those are an adult response, one is what a three year old does.

Basically my opinion is neither side of this debate are right, and neither is wrong as it cuts both ways, both could make a pre-made party that us in line with their values and leave DF to those of us who don't give a crap either way.

[Brises]

I do not think you understand how things work, mainly life in general.

The majority of the public wants a vote to kick feature, of course this comes with many limitations to attempt to keep people from abusing, but YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.

A vote to kick feature serves one purpose and one purpose only, TO KICK a person or persons out of the group due to majority vote.

The reason does not matter, sorry it really does not.

If you are in a group of 8 and NO one else needs to watch CS, sorry but they should have the right to vote kick you. What else would it be for?

I myself do not use the DF to find party members, but with the new features coming up on 2.1 I likely will quite often.

If I get qued with someone who is wasting the parties time by randomly afking and not doing their best to progress the dungeon I should have the right to initiate a vote kick.

Sorry if the reason behind the vote kick bothers you, but that is life, grow up a bit.

I'm skeptical that SE's reason for the vote kick is due to conflict over watching cut scenes. However, my opinion differs from those who believe the majority should be able to kick whoever they want. We all paid for this game and we all have the right to enjoy it as it was intended. If a person is doing their best, trying to cooperate with the group, but it just not skilled enough or experienced enough in the eyes of the other players, that player still has a right to play. If someone wants to watch the cut scenes and is not delaying excessively, they have that right. If a group of 7 enters the df needing one member, they have no right to demand that that player do what they say. I'm sorry but people enter df to progress normally in the game and a majority does not have the right to tell them they can't. IMO there must be something inappropriate about what the player is doing to deserve to be kicked. And watching cut scenes is not inappropriate. Vote kick is not meant for parties to be selective about who they run with in df.

[Lurkios]

If a person is doing their best, trying to cooperate with the group, but it just not skilled enough or experienced enough in the eyes of the other players, that player still has a right to play. If someone wants to watch the cut scenes and is not delaying excessively, they have that right.

All discussions of personal morality aside, that is to say, speaking from a purely technical point of view - do the players that would otherwise be forced to party with the unskilled player not have the same right to play as they so choose?

[Brises]

All discussions of personal morality aside, that is to say, speaking from a purely technical point of view - do the players that would otherwise be forced to party with the unskilled player not have the same right to play as they so choose?

I would say no, because speed runs are the exception, not the norm. If you have to find even one person through df, that person's right to play at his/her own level needs to be respected. If you can't find a full sr party through FC or shout, something is wrong.