Vote Kick if watching cut scene? Dev Pls Respond

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Yoshi says a lot of things.

sure he does

Q: Will you be adding a kick feature for the Duty Finder?
A: Yes, we will. It will be a vote dismiss system, so for example, if someone is AFK or has fallen asleep, a request asking if the player should be removed will be sent to the other members of your party. If all members agree, the person will be removed. However, you won't be able to use this over and over, as it will be limited to once every few hours. Using this as a method for grief tactics falls under harassment, so please be careful.

[Tupsi]

sure he does

Sad thing is, since It's Duty Finder there's no way to really report it unless the people you run with happen to fall onto your server.

[Haibel]

Sad thing is, since It's Duty Finder there's no way to really report it unless the people you run with happen to fall onto your server.

False. I have had to report harassment 3 times since the game launched. each time I have had a GM contact me in under and hour with an avg. response time of
15 minutes. The GM with ask you to look the offending character up on the lodestone to be sure they are looking for the right character. GM's take harassment very
seriously. Now you would get a response when you report cheating because SE likes to take those leads and catch more then one character with them. But from what I
have seen. Harassment goes right into the GM que.

[Pooky]

Vote to Kick usually is just started. You can't have it not be initiated for specific reasons. You need a majority to vote to kick anyway. If 3 asshats decide they don't want you to watch cutscenes, do you really wanna forcibly stay in that group anyway?

[krazykrusnik]

Thank god this topic didn't start out how the title lead me to believe at first.

[ChriskoOnAnotherLevel]

I do not think you understand how things work, mainly life in general.

The majority of the public wants a vote to kick feature, of course this comes with many limitations to attempt to keep people from abusing, but YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.

A vote to kick feature serves one purpose and one purpose only, TO KICK a person or persons out of the group due to majority vote.

The reason does not matter, sorry it really does not.

If you are in a group of 8 and NO one else needs to watch CS, sorry but they should have the right to vote kick you. What else would it be for?

I myself do not use the DF to find party members, but with the new features coming up on 2.1 I likely will quite often.

If I get qued with someone who is wasting the parties time by randomly afking and not doing their best to progress the dungeon I should have the right to initiate a vote kick.

Sorry if the reason behind the vote kick bothers you, but that is life, grow up a bit.

[Zakalwe]

I do not think you understand how things work, mainly life in general.

The majority of the public wants a vote to kick feature, of course this comes with many limitations to attempt to keep people from abusing, but YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.

A vote to kick feature serves one purpose and one purpose only, TO KICK a person or persons out of the group due to majority vote.

The reason does not matter, sorry it really does not.

If you are in a group of 8 and NO one else needs to watch CS, sorry but they should have the right to vote kick you. What else would it be for?

I myself do not use the DF to find party members, but with the new features coming up on 2.1 I likely will quite often.

[Snip]

Sorry if the reason behind the vote kick bothers you, but that is life, grow up a bit.

Very sad...

[Pandastirfry]

Very sad...

How exactly is what he said "sad" he merely pointed out that, if your wants and desires are not inline with those of the rest of the group, then it is their right to remove you. It's the point of a well used kick function.

The way I look at all this is sorta like going to lunch with a group of co-workers, the group decided to get Italian, but you really wanted Chinese. Do you stamp your feet and demand to be accommodated, or do you suck it up and get Italian, or do you decide to just not go with them and find some other group that wants Chinese. Two of those are an adult response, one is what a three year old does.

Basically my opinion is neither side of this debate are right, and neither is wrong as it cuts both ways, both could make a pre-made party that us in line with their values and leave DF to those of us who don't give a crap either way.

[Brises]

I do not think you understand how things work, mainly life in general.

The majority of the public wants a vote to kick feature, of course this comes with many limitations to attempt to keep people from abusing, but YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.

A vote to kick feature serves one purpose and one purpose only, TO KICK a person or persons out of the group due to majority vote.

The reason does not matter, sorry it really does not.

If you are in a group of 8 and NO one else needs to watch CS, sorry but they should have the right to vote kick you. What else would it be for?

I myself do not use the DF to find party members, but with the new features coming up on 2.1 I likely will quite often.

If I get qued with someone who is wasting the parties time by randomly afking and not doing their best to progress the dungeon I should have the right to initiate a vote kick.

Sorry if the reason behind the vote kick bothers you, but that is life, grow up a bit.

I'm skeptical that SE's reason for the vote kick is due to conflict over watching cut scenes. However, my opinion differs from those who believe the majority should be able to kick whoever they want. We all paid for this game and we all have the right to enjoy it as it was intended. If a person is doing their best, trying to cooperate with the group, but it just not skilled enough or experienced enough in the eyes of the other players, that player still has a right to play. If someone wants to watch the cut scenes and is not delaying excessively, they have that right. If a group of 7 enters the df needing one member, they have no right to demand that that player do what they say. I'm sorry but people enter df to progress normally in the game and a majority does not have the right to tell them they can't. IMO there must be something inappropriate about what the player is doing to deserve to be kicked. And watching cut scenes is not inappropriate. Vote kick is not meant for parties to be selective about who they run with in df.

[Lurkios]

If a person is doing their best, trying to cooperate with the group, but it just not skilled enough or experienced enough in the eyes of the other players, that player still has a right to play. If someone wants to watch the cut scenes and is not delaying excessively, they have that right.

All discussions of personal morality aside, that is to say, speaking from a purely technical point of view - do the players that would otherwise be forced to party with the unskilled player not have the same right to play as they so choose?