To all those ANTI loot lockout people I say this.

[Roris]

Play the game one week with another goal than getting loot. I challenge you all to do this, because I know none of you will and I can count myself a default win in this discussion.

Well there are people who just leveled crafting for their own reasons regardless of the quest rewards, or people who played just to experience the story also regardless of loot rewards. I mean it's an MMO in the end and loot is a really integral part of them regardless of however you see it, but I guess there are people who subscribe to MMOs and just use them as a RP simulator or a glorified chatroom for $13 a month, so props to them!

[lordkabal26]

I wonder when the MMO zombie holocaust was.

Because as far as I can tell, we are surrounded by people who can't think of anything to do on their own. They only react to the sound of loot hitting the floor. And when they hear loot on the floor, they rush towards it and intend on consuming it regardless of what they have to pass through to get it. When they are out of loot, they go back to idle mode and just moan and stay in place. Oh, and constantly make threads about how they have nothing to do, can't forget that part.

Play the game one week with another goal than getting loot. I challenge you all to do this, because I know none of you will and I can count myself a default win in this discussion.

They're trumpeting the vanity system that's coming with 2.2, however in order to acquire all the gear from CT for all your jobs it'll take a lot longer than the 3 month window between patch 2.1 and 2.2 is going to make it extremely tiresome for people like me who like to collect the armor for the appearance (not the stats)

[darkstarpoet1]

Sad thing is there isn't other things to do, you Know crafting at its current state is pointless? They might as well removed crafting from 2.0, But considering I spent most of my time crafting in 1.0. so.... No world content to pass the time, no point in gathering, bots flood the market, and also armory system is pointless.

the funny thing is in 1.0 i did so much crafting and gathering when i wasn't running events because i actually enjoyed it. in arr i hate the gathering system and fishing is horrible. add in how worthless crafting has become since you can sneeze and get a hq piece of gear and it destroyed the economy.

[Djeserit]

They're trumpeting the vanity system that's coming with 2.2, however in order to acquire all the gear from CT for all your jobs it'll take a lot longer than the 3 month window between patch 2.1 and 2.2 is going to make it extremely tiresome for people like me who like to collect the armor for the appearance (not the stats)

6 sets of gear, 5 visible pieces per set. FOcus on the 3 sets you want as soon as 2.2 is out and get those first, then (after 2.2), work on the rest.

Your complaint boils down to "Oh no, I can't have it all in 3 months!"

Since when was longevity in an MMO a bad thing?

[Jynx]

Play the game one week with another goal than getting loot. I challenge you all to do this, because I know none of you will and I can count myself a default win in this discussion.

Does crafting and gathering count as "Getting loot"?

[Reyki]

when crafted item are worthy and are an alternative to i90 or 80 gear ye, if we need to farm material in HL dungeons .

i already saw some games where the best pve gears were crafted , but it was so damn long and hard to get all mats and it's was so damn entertaining to farm them in HL dugeons or worldbosses .

[lordkabal26]

6 sets of gear, 5 visible pieces per set. FOcus on the 3 sets you want as soon as 2.2 is out and get those first, then (after 2.2), work on the rest.

Your complaint boils down to "Oh no, I can't have it all in 3 months!"

Since when was longevity in an MMO a bad thing?

When it's forced artificially it is a bad thing. If I want to grind and get the gear in 3 months I should have the right, If I get locked out for the week because I can't work on my OTHER JOBS like they want us to do why the fark should I log in and sit around doing nothing? I'll go play other games and most likely I'll leave for ESO and Star Citizen when they're released at least those games WON'T have content or loot lockouts which interfere in how I want to play the game with my subscription money.

So unless they rethink these lockouts before either of those games are released I foresee a large number of people leaving to go get their entertainment without being restricted based on trying to create artificial longevity. Voting with your wallet is one of the best methods to get a game developer to wake up and smell the coffee

[Reyki]

this game will be a total failure if they don't add more entertaining dugeons /WB /JOBS and BETTER DUNGEONS lock out mechanics . Motsly I and 80% of my mates are already waiting and looking for a new mmo because they are BORED with all those limiations , but we are alll hoping that they'll fix those damn game mechanic issues.

when a game fall into an endless routine ............................ it crashes against a wall .

[Xairos]

If you people think that any (brand) new mmo won't have an artificial wall keeping you from burning down content in order to buy the devs time to produce content for their paying customers, then you are seriously delusional.

I get not playing a new mmo while its fleshing out its content, but don't start swinging around the "grass is greener on the other side" mentality.

[Genesis88]

If you people think that any (brand) new mmo won't have an artificial wall keeping you from burning down content in order to buy the devs time to produce content for their paying customers, then you are seriously delusional.

hence why new mmos fail, compare to the old ones. *snickers*