Paladin BiS Accessory Reddit Discussion

[Garnatian]

I'm sorry, but that just isn't true. I have gotten quite a few melded accessories and my threat generation is so much better now. Being a giant hp sponge isn't going to do anyone good when your DPS are ripping aggro off of you. STR affects flash potency and of course your DPS. Having tanks that are able to put nice numbers up is useful for so many encounters in coil including Twintania, to think like this is just pure ignorance.

If you're having threat issues with +1, you're terrible. Mitigation is the first are foremost priority of a Tank.

Gearing is boring in this game and far too simplified, especially when coming from a game like SWTOR where you'd whip out the spreadsheets to find out what stats are optimal.

[WowSuchName]

Melded Darksteel Scutum HQ:
Block Rate = 77
Block Strength = 265
VIT = 7
ACC = 6
Parry = 8
Skill speed = 8
Determination = 6

Holy Shield:
Block Rate = 167
Block Strength = 167
STR = 8
VIT = 8
Skill speed = 7
Parry = 9

I don't think Darksteel shield stand a chance vs Holy Shield. It is like 6ACC for too many lost.

Unless we are comparing if Bulwark kick in...

[saber_alter]

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i think i will stick with my consistent block rate over time rather than rely on a skill...

[JohnC2k2]

Melded Darksteel Scutum HQ:
Block Rate = 77
Block Strength = 265
VIT = 7
ACC = 6
Parry = 8
Skill speed = 8
Determination = 6

Holy Shield:
Block Rate = 167
Block Strength = 167
STR = 8
VIT = 8
Skill speed = 7
Parry = 9

I don't think Darksteel shield stand a chance vs Holy Shield. It is like 6ACC for too many lost.

Unless we are comparing if Bulwark kick in...

You are also not adding it's overmelds in.

[WowSuchName]

@JohnC2K2, i think this is over-melded already. I took the number from xivdb.com but the number there could be wrong too.

[JohnC2k2]

@JohnC2K2, i think this is over-melded already. I took the number from xivdb.com but the number there could be wrong too.

very much so. All the numbers are wrong on xivdb. I know it fits 4 Dex also.

[UrbanLucrece]

Crafted Gryphonskin Acc overmelded with IVs etc > Allagan/Hero yup ^^

[Leiron]

Its tough to measure really, the threat meters are all relative so you don't get any true hard data.
IMO, you should only pop on those str accessories if you need the threat gen, but if you don't, stick with fending.

[TaneshimaPopura]

@ Tirion

And have you even cleared it once? I'm clearing it on the 2nd week being a Paladin. First week of attempting it. My subscription has ended and not gonna resub till my Japanese Examination is over. I have never failed in my roles during the whole attempt, it was the female player that was holding the party back. The MT as you said sucked, cleared Twintania before twice said my threat was really high even when he did OT and MT before.

My MT was Aru Phabet of Carbuncle. He is Japanese so I don't expect him to come back me up in an English forum.

And it has only been what? 4th Week since Twister change? I hit Paladin to 50 on 5th of November, World first was on 26 of October. My clear was 22nd of October first step into Coil in 29th of October as Bard. I have the gall to turn my Achievement public while you hide yourself.

[TirionCrey]

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Why so defensive? I was simply stating that you were trying to shut me and my opinion down just cause "I don't kill Twintania reliably" when you yourself just recently killed it for the first time. I was simply implying that you shouldn't be trying to shut me off just cause of that.

PS: And I'm not afraid to say it here. No I haven't beaten Twintania yet with my group, despite the fact that my group is on Turn 5 for 8 weeks now. In those 8 weeks we got a total attempts worth roughly 6h on her. 2 weeks Twintania was shut down due to bugs. 4 weeks I was on vacation in the states visiting a friend. Last 2 weeks members of our group had a screwed up RL schedule barely leaving us with 2h of raiding the whole week in which we squeezed in Turn1-4 and a lil bit over an hour on Twintania. Despite all of that we are deep into Twister phase already (35ish%).

Once again...while I recognize your achievement getting through Turn1-5 in such a short time, I have a lot of experience in all of the Turns including Turn5 to have an educated opinion about it that simply stated that if the OT is getting too close in aggro, the MT sucks and you basically confirmed that. So your previous statements don't hold true, cause they are based on a MT that doesn't do his job right, which makes your points "suggestions for an OT playing with a crappy MT" at best, but not general accountable advice for just anybody. I was merely stating what of your points are not true based on a group where each member plays to the jobs full potential and you shutting me off with the "can't kill Twintania reliably" when you just did it 6 days ago and me pointing that out was just trolling you cause you trolled me for no reason.

PS: Your post also kinda implies that you were doing Turn 5 with a group of players where at least some of them already cleared it before. Just saying.