Please adjust Tomestone crafting material requirements

[Ksenia]

As people have to cap their myth every week and the grind will just bring them 800 to 1000 philo anyway. I dont see why SE will lower this to 3. The philo mats have become over supply on a lot servers now.

Philo mat's are not over supplied they are crazy stupid expensive and nobody can afford them. "Oh but only 25K-20K-15K each".
I need 54 Potash and 9 Animal fat to make a suit as a weaver, not including Jewelry. I don't buy one knowing I need that many to meet objective.

[Ryans]

Philo mat's are not over supplied they are crazy stupid expensive and nobody can afford them. "Oh but only 25K-20K-15K each".
I need 54 Potash and 9 Animal fat to make a suit as a weaver, not including Jewelry. I don't buy one knowing I need that many to meet objective.

You might not be able to afford them, but others can. If you don't want to farm the philosophy to make it, or have it made, yourself, then don't complain about the price tag.

[Skyhound]

You might not be able to afford them, but others can. If you don't want to farm the philosophy to make it, or have it made, yourself, then don't complain about the price tag.

The price of philo mats is a problem. Having trouble to afford materials for obsolete armor is idiotic. It only takes 10 -15 minutes to buy one philo mat, there is no reason that should cost 20k. It makes absolutely no business sense and kills the crafting classes more than anything since devoted raiders will just deal with DL gear to get Myth/Allagan and the upcoming CT gear.

[Ksenia]

You might not be able to afford them, but others can. If you don't want to farm the philosophy to make it, or have it made, yourself, then don't complain about the price tag.

Complain? I don't run dungeons. One star is fine by me.
Who can afford Philo Mats? People who run WP every day. They aren't buying them though. My reply was to 'over supplied' Philo. They aren't over supplied. They are out of range of the people you want to buy them. So don't 'complain' when they sit on the market board for 6 weeks and get undercut.

[Grundy]

Philo mat's are not over supplied they are crazy stupid expensive and nobody can afford them. "Oh but only 25K-20K-15K each".
I need 54 Potash and 9 Animal fat to make a suit as a weaver, not including Jewelry. I don't buy one knowing I need that many to meet objective.

This drives me nuts, you need 7 coke for a Darksteel Ingot. A Darksteel Ingot is 300K + each on Excalibur MW. You need 2 Darksteel Ingots (plus a bunch of Darksteel and Rosegold Nuggets) to make Heavy Darksteel Armour.

HQ Heavy Darksteel Armour on MW on Sunday when I checked was 330k

SayWhutNow?

[WHS]

This drives me nuts, you need 7 coke for a Darksteel Ingot. A Darksteel Ingot is 300K + each on Excalibur MW. You need 2 Darksteel Ingots (plus a bunch of Darksteel and Rosegold Nuggets) to make Heavy Darksteel Armour.

HQ Heavy Darksteel Armour on MW on Sunday when I checked was 330k

SayWhutNow?

Was the suit NQ vs the HQ version? Sometimes I see this on alot of philo mat items but it has been mostly the NQ run to the ground cheap and the HQ left being priced high still.

[Kyana]

Question: Did you read this?

We understand that the cost of materials for 2-star crafts is a bit high when it comes to their ingredients purchased with Allagan tomestones of philosophy. Therefore, we will make the necessary changes to recipes that use more than 1125 tomestones and scale them down a bit so all of the recipes will no longer use more than 1125 tomestones.

This means that all 2 star recipes will require the same ammount of tomestones (probably with v2.1).
That's great, although some items still require too much compared to darklight stuff, but it's a real improvement.

This drives me nuts, you need 7 coke for a Darksteel Ingot. A Darksteel Ingot is 300K + each on Excalibur MW. You need 2 Darksteel Ingots (plus a bunch of Darksteel and Rosegold Nuggets) to make Heavy Darksteel Armour.

Wrong aaaaand wrong.

A darksteel ingot requires 9 coke, not 7 coke.
Every piece of heavy darksteel gear requires 1 darksteel ingot. This means 1 for head/body, 1 for hands, 1 for legs/feet => 3 darksteel ingots => 3375 tomestones of philosophy for a whole set of heavy darklight gear, which requires, as I already said, the lowest ammount of tomestones for a complete set.

[Grundy]

A darksteel ingot requires 9 coke, not 7 coke.
Every piece of heavy darksteel gear requires 1 darksteel ingot. This means 1 for head/body, 1 for hands, 1 for legs/feet => 3 darksteel ingots => 3375 tomestones of philosophy for a whole set of heavy darklight gear, which requires, as I already said, the lowest ammount of tomestones for a complete set.

You are right, I'm forgetting the Plate is made from Nuggets, however my argument still applies. It makes no sense to buy an Ingot (or buy coke to make and Ingot) as well as the additional materials and sell HQ armour at such a low price.

[Royal]

You are right, I'm forgetting the Plate is made from Nuggets, however my argument still applies. It makes no sense to buy an Ingot (or buy coke to make and Ingot) as well as the additional materials and sell HQ armour at such a low price.

The people who farmed all of the mats themselves have no initial investment in the item and can sell cheaper than someone who bought the coke/mats to manufacture the item. My guess is that is how the price is so low for some of these.

[Kyana]

You are right, I'm forgetting the Plate is made from Nuggets, however my argument still applies. It makes no sense to buy an Ingot (or buy coke to make and Ingot) as well as the additional materials and sell HQ armour at such a low price.

Ah, now I got it. Yes you are right. It doesn't make sense to buy processed materials.

I think prices are a problem of the potency of the item compared to darklight.
If the crafted gear is HQ the main stats (Vit, Str,...) are the same as darklight while NQ is lower and considered "useless" and "fail" because of that.
HQ crafted 2-star gear is the standard and not considered superior to darklight by the majority of players.