Paladin Cross/Class skill changes please

[Steeled]

Still, I'd love paladins to have a decent heal. This can/should be prohibitive on MP or just by spell cooldown. Perhaps not a heal directly, but a regen, because this wouldn't be as potent in saving a life.

[Fyreus]

I'm not trying to heal for 700, i want to heal for 500. That 500 or battle rez or Succor would help make the difference in a battle. That being said I'd love to see more synergy between paladin and warriors. There's a delicate balance here that's hard to deal with, but some tank-only auras for tanks would be nice to have provided they only work with pld/war are in party.

[MomoOG]

Paladin just doesn't feel like the FF paladin, and let be honest, one of the main reasons people play this game is for classic FF classes/jobs. I was so disappointed with the design of the Pld that I switched to Mnk after reaching 50.

[Taj]

Really happy some old FF fans started posting in this thread agreeing with me. I feel some of our other players are ignorant as to what a Paladin in the Final Fantasy universe was. I mean saying Holy isn't attached to a Paladin is just plain ignorance. I agree with you especially Momo, Paladin just feels like the standard Knight class (not even Knight in FF universe) in any run-of-the-mill MMORPG. I want my versatility back. Or if you're going to make me play a dumb downed Knight/Paladin hybrid I want my breaker skills.

[Leiron]

Really happy some old FF fans started posting in this thread agreeing with me.

If you want a party where ll anyone does is nod their head in agreement, make your own forum.

[Taj]

If you want a party where ll anyone does is nod their head in agreement, make your own forum.

And how did you get that out of my quote? Like really. I'm happy fans of a gaming series I myself am a fan of also agree with my opinion. If you read my replies throughout the thread I thanked people who DIDN'T agree with me for their opinion. Lei you need to calm down.

[Deusteele]

The Paladin in FFXIV feels very close to what Knight/Paladin have always been in the Final Fantasy. A heavily armored defender with vestigial healing ability. You were never healing with a Knight/Paladin during a fight and getting ahead. Their spells were meant to be used to conserve White Mage magic slots or MP during dungeon crawls.

[Leiron]

And how did you get that out of my quote?

Because that is what you said.

Like really. I'm happy fans of a gaming series I myself am a fan of also agree with my opinion. If you read my replies throughout the thread I thanked people who DIDN'T agree with me for their opinion. Lei you need to calm down.

I am always calm, just direct.

[Taj]

Because that is what you said.

Even in the quote you quoted I stated I am glad old FF players agree with me. I did not state that I wanted everyone to agree with me. 2/10

@Deusteele: A limited cover and aggro abilities does not make a FF paladin. If it were meant to be a knight, where are the breaker debuff skills? A gimpy cure, gimpy protect, gimpy raise offers little to party support.

[Viridiana]

Really happy some old FF fans started posting in this thread agreeing with me. I feel some of our other players are ignorant as to what a Paladin in the Final Fantasy universe was. I mean saying Holy isn't attached to a Paladin is just plain ignorance.

Just went to FF Wikia. Typed in Paladin, clicked on the links to all the Paladins/Knights in all the games. Only 2 of them across all the games can cast Holy. Beatrix in IX, if you count her as a PLD (and she's only temporarily playable, at that), and XI's PLD job. Then I did the same for White Mage. Ten White Mages across the games can cast Holy. Three of those are actually Summoners, too, which means that Holy is better represented as a SMN spell than it is as a PLD spell.

Ignorance, indeed.