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    Coil mode for main story

    Greetings. MAny of us played Tera and know, that TEra's main story quests need to chase many dungeons till the last dungeon- Manaya's Core (normal mode). Players need to complete this dungeon to finish main story. There is no any super rare loot in this dungeon in normal mode and this dungeon is not very easy, but still it is not so hard as hard mode with it's rare loot. So, I wonder- why not to make easy mode for Coil- without loot- just to complete main story, to read, to know what is there? And Coil as it is now will be HARD mode Coil with it's loot? To make this easy mode not very easy, but easier then current Coil. Thank you
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    Spoilers: Snape kills Dumbledore.
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    Coil has its own story but it's not the main story. The main story concluded with Praetorium. Just because a dungeon justifies its own existence with a story doesn't mean everyone needs to be able to complete it. There's always youtube if you really need to know what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephHalp View Post
    Coil has its own story but it's not the main story. The main story concluded with Praetorium. Just because a dungeon justifies its own existence with a story doesn't mean everyone needs to be able to complete it. There's always youtube if you really need to know what happens.
    Disagree. New story means new heroes, new lore, new characters. Coil tells us about... Hard to say not to make spoilers... So, Coil is a continue of a main story, so players want to know- what is next
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephHalp View Post
    Coil has its own story but it's not the main story. The main story concluded with Praetorium. Just because a dungeon justifies its own existence with a story doesn't mean everyone needs to be able to complete it. There's always youtube if you really need to know what happens.
    "a dragon"?

    I think you meant, "the dragon". The one who started the whole 2.0 thing. And Youtube? Really?

    *sigh*

    With players like this I hope mister director is satisfied. He succeeded into making ARR into the elitist game he wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    "a dragon"?

    I think you meant, "the dragon". The one who started the whole 2.0 thing. And Youtube? Really?

    *sigh*

    With players like this I hope mister director is satisfied. He succeeded into making ARR into the elitist game he wanted.
    If you absolutely have to you can wait for the nerf. When tougher content is added older content gets nerfed so more players can see it. Adding an easier mode just so players can see it sooner is pointless.

    Edit: Also, you do realize that if you're going to quote something it has to actually be something I said, right? Nowhere did I even mention the word dragon. God, so many spoilers for the OP.
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    Last edited by NephHalp; 12-02-2013 at 04:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    "a dragon"?

    I think you meant, "the dragon". The one who started the whole 2.0 thing. And Youtube? Really?

    *sigh*

    With players like this I hope mister director is satisfied. He succeeded into making ARR into the elitist game he wanted.
    Seriously man? SERIOUSLY? Did you play XI? That had the hardest most rediculous content for the main story, the fact that a fresh 50 with garbage gear can even do the main story is already easy enough. You ever play a game where when you beat it on the hardest difficulty you get some extra cutscenes at the end that sort of adds to the story? Well that is coil.

    I for one enjoy that you have to actually put in some effort to save the world and actually earn the title of Hero.
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    All they have to do now is make Coil difficult so it can justify having a Hard Mode tag.
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    that's planned... each addition to hard mode content is going to apply the "echo" buff to the previous tier

    i.e. - when turns 6 through whatever of coil are released, turns 1 through 5 become easy mode

    ...not exactly new information, they were talking about this before beta :\
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1037683/achievement/detail/747/

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    Quote Originally Posted by NephHalp View Post
    If you absolutely have to you can wait for the nerf. When tougher content is added older content gets nerfed so more players can see it. Adding an easier mode just so players can see it sooner is pointless.

    Edit: Also, you do realize that if you're going to quote something it has to actually be something I said, right? Nowhere did I even mention the word dragon. God, so many spoilers for the OP.
    Missread "dungeon" as "dragon" for some reason. Still, it's obvious what's in the "Binding Coil of Bahamut" and why it's so important to the story. I don't get why you're using that in such accusatory manner.

    It's not pointless. Knowing that there is content, but "innaccessible" due to scheduling issues, skill issues or group issues and knowing that "they will beat it in four months" (or whatever is the date of 2.2) is demotivating.
    Other MMORPGs are adopting multiple difficulty settings (the first being WoW - earned them 12m subs when they did...), I don't see why we couldn't have it in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazi View Post
    Seriously man? SERIOUSLY? Did you play XI? That had the hardest most rediculous content for the main story, the fact that a fresh 50 with garbage gear can even do the main story is already easy enough. You ever play a game where when you beat it on the hardest difficulty you get some extra cutscenes at the end that sort of adds to the story? Well that is coil.

    I for one enjoy that you have to actually put in some effort to save the world and actually earn the title of Hero.
    I didn't play Final Fantasy XI. This is Final Fantasy XIV though. Not any other action game like Devil May Cry, either.
    I honestly don't understand why you even bought that up.
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