For people who want to Nerf FATES

[Enkidoh]

I want to know why everyone is in such a rush to hit level 50, slow down take in the view, do some side quests to learn more about the world. There is so much more then getting that next level, take the time to learn more about your class or job. I don't know about everyone else but I enjoy the dance (dodging aoe, or positional attacks) with monsters, it is more fun then beating on the brick wall that is the fate boss. This is supposed to be fun, not a race to the end or my 'sword' is bigger then yours.

^This. A lot of these tired comments about 'there's nothing to do in the game, blah blah blah' have been mentioned by people who rushed ahead to 50/completed the storyline in a week after launch, simply to try and boast that they got there first. Despite what some people have said about 'the game really starts at 50', having misinterpreted an offhand comment made by Yoshi-P during the Beta, it's clear that doesn't mean 'rush to 50 and ignore everything else'. There is plenty to do in the game before that point (I mean, look at all these threads from people saying "Please explain the storyline, I skipped all the dialogue to get to 50 fast" or "how do you do such-and-such? I've been skipping through all the dialogue and story to get to end game" - the game wasn't designed to get to 50 fast, you're meant to play through the storyline bit by bit, learning as you go). It's not the destination that's important, but the journey. End game will still be there no matter how fast or slow you reach the end.

As for FATEs, I think I'm one of those they were meant for as I really enjoy being able to just come and go as I please, however, I'm not blind to their weaknesses - this ease of accessibility has naturally caused laziness in players who just FATE grind all the way to 50 without actually doing anything else (ala, the storyline, which is structured in such a way to unlock content as you go along and also teach you how to play your class/Job).

I actually left feedback during the Beta in regards to this as even then I saw it's potential problems and suggested perhaps making them more restrictive like Campaign in FFXI, where instead of getting into a FATE just by being there, you don't actually participate until you speak to a specific NPC at the FATE who then flags you for that FATE. Rewards and such would be handled as normal like FATEs are now though. But it's just an idea to make FATEs a little more interesting and perhaps give some stability to the system.

[Axlle10]

But FATEs do not force anyone to rush the game. those that do know full well that they will hit 50 a lot quicker and end up at endgame possibly not wanting to play anymore. Again, SE is not forcing anyone to do fates. People who do them know full well the consequences of rushing. For me, im not rushing to boast that i have all classes level 50. i want to level those classes because i want to be able to help out my FC and friends that are always needing a class that isnt ever on.

And to put an end to the whole "fates make you suck with that job" bs. What makes a person suck? its gotta be what is given to them right? cant ever be the person themselves right? of course not, people are never to blame for their choices that they make. -end sarcasm. I have said it many times. FATES DO NOT MAKE SOME1 SUCK. If they choose to not experiment with their skills then that is their own fault for being a noob. I on the other hand have learned my jobs just fine being able to experiment even more so than i could in dungeons. You dont have nearly as many restrictions as to what you can do when fate leveling vs dungeon grinding.

[Millimidget]

Of course if you don't care at all and just want to see a bunch of "50" written on your profile you'll say "nope its fine".

Or if you're like me and like running dungeons and tried farming dungeons and found that while they're not the worst MMO dungeons ever they're still short of WoW-good, and if you're trying to run them across 8 classes they become eye-bleed boring, you'll say "nope its fine."

[Darkwerk]

LOL "Wow-good" .........

[PeppeLepeu]

Or if you're like me and like running dungeons and tried farming dungeons and found that while they're not the worst MMO dungeons ever they're still short of WoW-good, and if you're trying to run them across 8 classes they become eye-bleed boring, you'll say "nope its fine."

WoW's dungeons weren't that good... Really as someone that would prefer to just spend my time in game deep in a dungeon whether leveling or gearing I don't think destroying fates needs to happen. Just give other avenues that can compete for the rate of xp gain. Raise the XP rate in dungeons, allow people to redo quests on alt classes, etc.

[SoupEmpress]

Or if you're like me and like running dungeons and tried farming dungeons and found that while they're not the worst MMO dungeons ever they're still short of WoW-good, and if you're trying to run them across 8 classes they become eye-bleed boring, you'll say "nope its fine."

Actually I think running any scripted event (FATEs, dungeons) over and over is eye-bleed boring. I'd much rather just grind mobs the good old fashioned way :>

[Thunderz]

Why bump this terrible thread

and people are still using the "you rush through the game" argument, get out

Fate are boring mmk