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  1. #701
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    Baconknight Ryder
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    If you know a burst/burn phase is coming up soon, like Titan Heart phase, then go out of your way when you feel it coming up to save it for that. Otherwise, general school of thought is to use your offensive cooldowns asap if it's a long fight. The benefit of trying to stack them is not better than the amount of time you'd lose not using them asap over the course of a fight. But yes, as said earlier, save them for burn phases.

    If your dots aren't reapplying itself, that means you are clipping the dots, and your initial application is stronger than your reapplication, in which case the game doesn't overwrite the older one which is why it says, "... has no effect." E.G. if you had BfB on while you applied your first CT, if you CT again but don't have BfB on, it won't apply to the target because it's a weaker version.
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossmoney View Post
    If you know a burst/burn phase is coming up soon, like Titan Heart phase, then go out of your way when you feel it coming up to save it for that. Otherwise, general school of thought is to use your offensive cooldowns asap if it's a long fight. The benefit of trying to stack them is not better than the amount of time you'd lose not using them asap over the course of a fight. But yes, as said earlier, save them for burn phases.

    If your dots aren't reapplying itself, that means you are clipping the dots, and your initial application is stronger than your reapplication, in which case the game doesn't overwrite the older one which is why it says, "... has no effect." E.G. if you had BfB on while you applied your first CT, if you CT again but don't have BfB on, it won't apply to the target because it's a weaker version.
    Thanks alot on this! Really learned something new.
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  3. #703
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    Quick question,

    Do you guys always pop up BfB whenever it's available? the drawback seems hurt alot when I tried it with my Titan fight recently.

    PS:
    Any of you experienced the second CT in the rotation not taking its DoT effect?
    Alternatively time your BfB use - use it when he does landslide/bomb/weigh phase but don't use it when you know tumult is going to be within the 20s of BfB.

    Or when you are in BfB and you got hit by weigh and tumult is coming but you aren't topped back to full, quickly turn it off by right clicking on the BfB status icon on top.
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  4. #704
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Alternatively time your BfB use - use it when he does landslide/bomb/weigh phase but don't use it when you know tumult is going to be within the 20s of BfB.

    Or when you are in BfB and you got hit by weigh and tumult is coming but you aren't topped back to full, quickly turn it off by right clicking on the BfB status icon on top.
    Never thought of manually deactivating it. Geez, silly me.

    In any case, I passed it without using BfB though I might be a deadweight during that run due to not using BfB. LOL!
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  5. #705
    Do you guys always pop up BfB whenever it's available? the drawback seems hurt alot when I tried it with my Titan fight recently.
    Always usin it whenever its up, but on Titan it truelly depend of you know, the number of dpsers still alive.

    Also USE it when bombs are up, save backflip jump and spine shatter dive so you can maybe lose like ~2 seconds maximum at dpsing on a drop of bombs where you can't dps at all, by dpsin all the time until well, you know, its gonna explode. backflip - spineshatter and you re good to go again.

    Pretty much atomised everyone lately on Titan For the tumult thing ... just save bloodbath for phase 5, possible second wind, you re golden with these while bfb is on
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  6. #706
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    Pompey Dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxin_Rudy View Post
    i did some testing, and looks like life surge will make Dragonfire Dive crits on every target it hits, so for AoE damage you can use this to bump your dps
    This is false. It will seems to always crit on the enemy targeted but subsequent enemies it hits can not crit, you might have just had some lucky RNG
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  7. #707
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    I'm not sure if I'm doing it right, but in the mobs of WP, do you guys still "try" to do the usual 27 rotation? Or just spam True Thrust combo?
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  8. #708
    Depend, most of the time its doomspike and dfd with buffs on. when 4 mobs are left just spam RoT until 3 / 2 left and go single target
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  9. #709
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    Nobu All
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    Depend, most of the time its doomspike and dfd with buffs on. when 4 mobs are left just spam RoT until 3 / 2 left and go single target
    ^^
    Also take a look at the "Go Buffed or Go Home" section of the first page. Has the rotation you need for dungeon mobs. I personally like to finish the chaos thrust on the 3rd mob or the 2nd just so I have a dot ticking away while focusing on the 1. A lot of DF tanks imo don't like to do AoE pulls. But if you're talking speed runs take a look at the AoE section of the first page as well.
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    Kaethe Kreuz
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    Hi,

    What would be the most optimum rotation with buffs and off gcd skills for a very short duration fight? Specifically the turn5 phase where you've to burst down the conflagration before it explodes
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