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    Biggabertha Xiexienii
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    The key thing to note is the time it takes you to transition from Heavy Thrust over to Impulse Drive and the Jump you use in the middle of it.

    You might spend something like half a second or more going from the flank to the rear of an enemy so make sure that this is done inbetween the Global Cooldown - for instance, RIGHT after you use Heavy Thrust, start moving to the rear (pray your tank stays still). This way, once you're able to use Impulse Drive, you can use it right away instead of getting into position.

    Your Jump right after Chaos Thrust is in a place where you'll lose out on something like half a second or more by the entire animation taking so long to wind up and wind down.

    These two things are probably where your 1.5 seconds is going/being used up - yeah, dropping Fracture would solve it too but I like the idea that more DoTs = better failsafe if something goes wrong (such as being in a Pick Up Group and the Tank just doesn't sit still or is in a bad position etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggabertha View Post
    The key thing to note is the time it takes you to transition from Heavy Thrust over to Impulse Drive and the Jump you use in the middle of it.

    You might spend something like half a second or more going from the flank to the rear of an enemy so make sure that this is done inbetween the Global Cooldown - for instance, RIGHT after you use Heavy Thrust, start moving to the rear (pray your tank stays still). This way, once you're able to use Impulse Drive, you can use it right away instead of getting into position.

    Your Jump right after Chaos Thrust is in a place where you'll lose out on something like half a second or more by the entire animation taking so long to wind up and wind down.

    These two things are probably where your 1.5 seconds is going/being used up - yeah, dropping Fracture would solve it too but I like the idea that more DoTs = better failsafe if something goes wrong (such as being in a Pick Up Group and the Tank just doesn't sit still or is in a bad position etc.)
    Doing so in a Dummy Target is pretty much easy, I can pull it off easily, but as I was giving it a thought in actual fights, I just can't imagine that I can really pull it off as there will be instances that your DPS rotation will be interrupted hence the chain will be broken.
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    Buttons in a blanket! Cheap to make and they get the job done. I'm sure there are better options, but srsly... Some of the food is just hell to craft/gather or too expensive to buy.
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    Quick question,

    Do you guys always pop up BfB whenever it's available? the drawback seems hurt alot when I tried it with my Titan fight recently.

    PS:
    Any of you experienced the second CT in the rotation not taking its DoT effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorauku View Post
    Quick question,

    Do you guys always pop up BfB whenever it's available? the drawback seems hurt alot when I tried it with my Titan fight recently.

    PS:
    Any of you experienced the second CT in the rotation not taking its DoT effect?
    Alternatively time your BfB use - use it when he does landslide/bomb/weigh phase but don't use it when you know tumult is going to be within the 20s of BfB.

    Or when you are in BfB and you got hit by weigh and tumult is coming but you aren't topped back to full, quickly turn it off by right clicking on the BfB status icon on top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Alternatively time your BfB use - use it when he does landslide/bomb/weigh phase but don't use it when you know tumult is going to be within the 20s of BfB.

    Or when you are in BfB and you got hit by weigh and tumult is coming but you aren't topped back to full, quickly turn it off by right clicking on the BfB status icon on top.
    Never thought of manually deactivating it. Geez, silly me.

    In any case, I passed it without using BfB though I might be a deadweight during that run due to not using BfB. LOL!
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    Do you guys always pop up BfB whenever it's available? the drawback seems hurt alot when I tried it with my Titan fight recently.
    Always usin it whenever its up, but on Titan it truelly depend of you know, the number of dpsers still alive.

    Also USE it when bombs are up, save backflip jump and spine shatter dive so you can maybe lose like ~2 seconds maximum at dpsing on a drop of bombs where you can't dps at all, by dpsin all the time until well, you know, its gonna explode. backflip - spineshatter and you re good to go again.

    Pretty much atomised everyone lately on Titan For the tumult thing ... just save bloodbath for phase 5, possible second wind, you re golden with these while bfb is on
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    If you know a burst/burn phase is coming up soon, like Titan Heart phase, then go out of your way when you feel it coming up to save it for that. Otherwise, general school of thought is to use your offensive cooldowns asap if it's a long fight. The benefit of trying to stack them is not better than the amount of time you'd lose not using them asap over the course of a fight. But yes, as said earlier, save them for burn phases.

    If your dots aren't reapplying itself, that means you are clipping the dots, and your initial application is stronger than your reapplication, in which case the game doesn't overwrite the older one which is why it says, "... has no effect." E.G. if you had BfB on while you applied your first CT, if you CT again but don't have BfB on, it won't apply to the target because it's a weaker version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossmoney View Post
    If you know a burst/burn phase is coming up soon, like Titan Heart phase, then go out of your way when you feel it coming up to save it for that. Otherwise, general school of thought is to use your offensive cooldowns asap if it's a long fight. The benefit of trying to stack them is not better than the amount of time you'd lose not using them asap over the course of a fight. But yes, as said earlier, save them for burn phases.

    If your dots aren't reapplying itself, that means you are clipping the dots, and your initial application is stronger than your reapplication, in which case the game doesn't overwrite the older one which is why it says, "... has no effect." E.G. if you had BfB on while you applied your first CT, if you CT again but don't have BfB on, it won't apply to the target because it's a weaker version.
    Thanks alot on this! Really learned something new.
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    I'm not sure if I'm doing it right, but in the mobs of WP, do you guys still "try" to do the usual 27 rotation? Or just spam True Thrust combo?
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