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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Believe it or not FFXI has been the sum of the entire final fantasy series in regards to MMO's. MMO's are much more coding intensive than console games. Scripting an entire mount system, physics, animations and skinning over a persistent world on a hardware server takes twice as long as coding it onto a disc. Considering that the dev team has been a failure for the last year or two, the company has lost numerous amounts of resources right in the middle of XIV development and the fact that they are rebuilding most of the core features from the ground up gives me enough rationality to see why they would be put in late.

    FFXIV will be part of the 90% FF titles with chocobos. The XIV Dev team will not bend its prioritization on your incessant QQing over x and y. They will develop and release on the time schedule they have planned and they will get the game in am enjoyable state sooner rather than later.
    I'd rather they had released the game in an enjoyable state in the first place.

    That aside, like I said before they haven't really changed much of anything since release except a few quests and NMs. I have not seen a SINGLE SYSTEM in the last 9 months that was rebuilt from anything up, much less the ground, except perhaps the targeting system (which they somehow made even worse).

    I get that they need to have priorities, what I don't like or agree with is the rationalization that every single thing they change should justifiably take 9 months+.
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    The prioritization argument is one made by fanboys/girls who won't admit to themselves this dev team is going nowhere with the game.

    Simple as that

    Even yoshi-p pointed out that there are different teams working on different things meaning that a good leader would have done the following:
    -team to fix battle system
    -team to redesign world (instead of create more generic zones and just put diff mobs in them which im betting is what will happen with the 'dungeons')
    -team to implement mounts and airships
    -team to implement company system
    -team to fix economy

    And then release everything at once if necessary.

    Instead there was:
    -team to implement quests that will not appeal to the mass gamer market
    -team to fix the wards into something it should have been a week after the game came out
    -team to implement companies by running lame lore stories months before any actual substance and remaking companies into some fame system instead of the "enhanced linkshells" they were supposed to be
    -team to fix the battle system by changing jobs and whatever else we get .

    Now im guessing its easy to say all this in hindsite and at the time the teams were made yoshi-p prob had to make some tough decisions. But its pretty fair to say this prioritization thing will be hit or miss.

    If the game isn't fixed in 3 months, the game is essentially screwed.
    If the battle patch is -really- good then -MAYBE- the game will pull through.
    But just fixing battle wont fix this game.
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    I'd rather they had released the game in an enjoyable state in the first place.
    NO **** ?! DONT YOU THINK EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO ADDED TO THEIR BOX SALES WANTS THIS? You must be trolling.

    I have not seen a SINGLE SYSTEM in the last 9 months that was rebuilt from anything up, much less the ground, except perhaps the targeting system (which they somehow made even worse).
    Oh you mean like the 1.18 battle system, new job system and so forth?

    If the game isn't fixed in 3 months, the game is essentially screwed.
    If the battle patch is -really- good then -MAYBE- the game will pull through.
    But just fixing battle wont fix this game.
    I'm inclined to agree with this because at its current state TERA, GW2 and (god forbid) even SWTOR will face punch XIV so hard it will have no hopes in ever contending in the Q4 2011 MMO market. I'm really hoping Yoshi and the XIV team can pull something together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    NO **** ?! DONT YOU THINK EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO ADDED TO THEIR BOX SALES WANTS THIS? You must be trolling.
    And if all else fails, attack a single comment and accuse the poster of trolling.

    *sigh*

    This is what the forums have turned into because of flamers vs. white knights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Oh you mean like the 1.18 battle system, new job system and so forth?
    Oh you mean the one that hasn't been released yet? The one that we have nothing but month's old news on? Yeah, that's totally a tangible change in the game right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    The prioritization argument is one made by fanboys/girls who won't admit to themselves this dev team is going nowhere with the game.
    Or it's the more polite response compared to what they really wanna say when they see another such thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeloo View Post
    Or it's the more polite response compared to what they really wanna say when they see another such thread.
    Or its something people who want jump, and don't care about anything else, including content get mad over every time they hear it

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    If there was no prioritization

    we would have jump before content
    we would never get companies and instead would get even more mini map icons
    we wouldnt get dungeons, we would get more holiday events even if there was no holiday
    we wouldnt get a level cap raise, we would get a bigger market ward
    we wouldnt get the job system, we would get mobs made even bigger


    get the point?
    The point being that we still got neither sufficient content nor companies nor dungeons nor a level cap raise nor a job system.
    Guess that one backfired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinsui View Post
    The point being that we still got neither sufficient content nor companies nor dungeons nor a level cap raise nor a job system.
    Guess that one backfired.
    no the point is if they dont put one thing over another, we dont get the stuff that ever matters in order to get content and things to do in game

    instead we get a bunch of fluff

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    no the point is if they dont put one thing over another, we dont get the stuff that ever matters in order to get content and things to do in game

    instead we get a bunch of fluff
    Except we've gotten neither fluff nor content yet, so what the heck have they been working on again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Except we've gotten neither fluff nor content yet, so what the heck have they been working on again?
    making mobs bigger
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