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    I recently bought a Twintania win, and got an Allagan bow for 1.2m gil.

    I'll do this a few more times, so I'm still top of the pile when 2.1 comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flionheart View Post
    I recently bought a Twintania win, and got an Allagan bow for 1.2m gil.

    I'll do this a few more times, so I'm still top of the pile when 2.1 comes out.
    Seriously though...
    Why do this?
    I never get that pay to win mind set. It's like buying a $60 steak dinner then paying someone else to eat it also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedine View Post
    Seriously though...
    Why do this?
    I never get that pay to win mind set. It's like buying a $60 steak dinner then paying someone else to eat it also.
    He's yanking the OP's chain. There's no coil group willing to give away weapons for such a small amount of gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    He's yanking the OP's chain. There's no coil group willing to give away weapons for such a small amount of gil.
    Even so, I know people who buy/sell Titan wins. I don't get that. Why play a game just to have someone else do content for you. If you want to play a game that plays itself or other people play for you just go watch "Lets Play" Videos or streams of top teams/players. The fact that you buy a win for an item or drop has always eluded me. It's not the same as buying an item in the market as you don't have the craft to get it, but if you have the class to use the item, you can obtain it through the dungeon or duty.

    If they item isn't sell/trade it is for a reason. The item is more a symbol of your accomplishments. Every time i see a Relic I should think. "Man that guy beat Titan Hard Mode"
    Now I'm like "hmmm wonder if he bought his relic.. his gear seems bad, besides his relic...."

    I don't want this to start happening to Coil. Which it might since people are complaining it is too hard, and top teams are already clearing it regularly and before the next coil update might start selling wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedine View Post
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    I don't like it either, however I understand as long as there is the ability to sell runs it will happen. Some players find it easier to acquire gil through legitimate means or not. Others are in a group that find farming Titan is easier than acquiring that amount of gil. So exchange will happen.

    Getting angry and saying it's morally wrong is not going to change a thing even if you're right. Only way to reduce this is if SE takes action to prevent it. So having a lot of players pressuring SE to do something about it maybe a better approach.

    It's going to take a long time before this will happens to Coil especially for the weapons since it's locked for a week.
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    I'm not saying it is wrong, because yeah lets say I enjoy crafting and made 40 million gil and I want a relic but don't want to waste time/energy because i don't enjoy it it might seem reasonable then to buy it. I mean you can buy other items. But if that is my play style, why do I even need it besides shiny glowing pixels?

    The point I am trying to make is that the only reason to have a top tier is so that it helps you do harder content. If you cant complete the current content, why have the new item, what makes you think you can complete the harder content? The only other reason to have these items is for show of your accomplishments, but with achievements you can see who beat coil regardless of weapon drop. You can also see that they didn't earn it if their skill is extremely lacking in luster.

    I just don't understand it. It isn't that I don't like it, it's just strange in my opinion. Why pay for this game, pay for a monthly fee then pay for someone to do content for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tribunus View Post
    Coil requires Titan HM to enter, why on earth would an item that appears before Coil be as good as an item that appears at the end of the games current top tier of content. Idiotic to even think it should be the same or even close.
    Because it's gated behind three weeks of tome farming?

    Tbh I wish I could buy Coil runs just to rebel against this stupid mentality mister director is trying to force into the game. I'm sick of the hardcores getting to play the coolest dungeon of the game, getting to see how the story ends, getting the only gear that actually looks cool while casuals get a recolor of their AF.

    And then people comes whining that the game is too "casual friendly". Yeah, right. Say that while you fight Twintania and the casuals are doing yet more WP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedine View Post
    Even so, I know people who buy/sell Titan wins. I don't get that. Why play a game just to have someone else do content for you. If you want to play a game that plays itself or other people play for you just go watch "Lets Play" Videos or streams of top teams/players. The fact that you buy a win for an item or drop has always eluded me.
    If they item isn't sell/trade it is for a reason. The item is more a symbol of your accomplishments. Every time i see a Relic I should think. "Man that guy beat Titan Hard Mode"
    Now I'm like "hmmm wonder if he bought his relic..
    It's funny from a lore/immersion stand point. You are supposed to be making your own journey, and their claim to fame would be that the "Warrior of Light" paid off some far more skilled and unsung heroes to let them tag along, then took credit for it. Scandalous!
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    Last edited by Lukahn; 12-13-2013 at 12:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flionheart View Post
    I recently bought a Twintania win, and got an Allagan bow for 1.2m gil.

    I'll do this a few more times, so I'm still top of the pile when 2.1 comes out.
    Where is that guy who said "Twintania will not be sold for months, maybe never? " ?

    How to sell a run? If the weapon of the customer drops, he pays. If it doesn't drop (bad rng) it's a free carried run. Simple, isn't it?

    Now imagine how easy is sell runs with a full 80 gear +allagan 95 weapon group, when 2.1 is out

    OP, allagan weapon is getting a boost because Yoshi got reports (from JP playerbase) asking to make the fight easier, giving out a weapon to make things easier farming it every week, reducing the stress. 80 gear will help too for this goal

    Hey hey, dat worthy reward..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teon View Post
    Where is that guy who said "Twintania will not be sold for months, maybe never? " ?

    How to sell a run? If the weapon of the customer drops, he pays. If it doesn't drop (bad rng) it's a free carried run. Simple, isn't it?

    Now imagine how easy is sell runs with a full 80 gear +allagan 95 weapon group, when 2.1 is out

    OP, allagan weapon is getting a boost because Yoshi got reports (from JP playerbase) asking to make the fight easier, giving out a weapon to make things easier farming it every week, reducing the stress. 80 gear will help too for this goal

    Hey hey, dat worthy reward..
    sarcasm detector is broken?
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