Relic weapon rant.

[Noahlimits]

Because relic is way too common place now. Yoshi himself said that it's not at all special anymore and too many people have them. This can be attributed to people carrying others and selling runs. I wish they'd just make it against TOS to sell runs, that'd fix a lot.

[Skotie]

Welcome to the gear treadmill, it's what endgame is all about.

[Zantetsuken]

News flash.

'Linear gear (treadmill) progression' means that ALL existing gear becomes obsolete when new higher lvl gear is released.

Yep, your hard work will be rendered meaningless every 3-4 months as new gear is introduced and the stuff you prize now (ie Relics) becomes face-roll-able to even the newest of the newbies.



If you think ARR should start branching into horizontal progression as opposed to vertical... well there's an argument to be made for it -- and many threads on the topic.

[permbanned]

I'd be fine with relic weapons if they were the hardest weapons to get in the game, but they're just not.

Personally, I think they should stay ilv90, Allagan should be ilv100 and extreme primal weapons should be ilv95.

[Destinova]

I think we only have the first stages to the real relic weapon. Over time and more content is released we will have to do tough conte t to upgrade it farther.

[Aldehido]

I think I didin't make myself clear. And I agree with most of you guys until a certain point.
What I'm complaining about is the importance of the relic in the lore, and yes I have the same argument regarding you need +1 in order to beat Twintania. Yet I believe that Allagan weapons should be left the same and include a new quest in order to improve the relics above allagan level. I'm not arguing about linear progression regarding gear because that's always been the same way in end-game in every game. But I feel like SE hyped everyone with the relic weapon as if it's the most important piece of weapon for your job, then they give you a RNG weapon.

[Aldehido]

I think we only have the first stages to the real relic weapon. Over time and more content is released we will have to do tough conte t to upgrade it farther.

I hope this is the point.

[Aldehido]

What I'm complaining about is the importance of the relic in the lore, and yes I have the same argument regarding you need +1 in order to beat Twintania. Yet I believe that Allagan weapons should be left the same and include a new quest in order to improve the relics above allagan level. I'm not arguing about linear progression regarding gear because that's always been the same way in end-game in every game. But I feel like SE hyped everyone with the relic weapon as if it's the most important piece of weapon for your job, then they give you a RNG weapon.

Yet again, reading my post regarding the lore, same is with AF, AF is lore related gear with alot of importance but it became obsolete. This might be my FFXI side speaking since relics were in fact the best piece of gear in game until they added delve and everyone and their mother who got lucky got a piece of weapon on par or better than the relics.

[Aldehido]

Unless they're making these ancient Allag weapons the weapons of choice eventually.

Sorry for the thread spam.

[Destinova]

I hope this is the point.

Like in ffxi but the weapons we get in ffxiv are actually useable. I say it should have 4 complete upgrades. After that they come out with something differsnt.
Bring in some of those special weapon abilities like attacking twice or occasional deals damage based on hp.