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    Aldehido's Avatar
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    Relic weapon rant.

    Now I'm wondering. If SE are adding weapons that are going to be stronger than Relic Weapons, won't that defeat the purpose of all the story and work behind the quest of getting a relic weapon then making it +1. Even SE is going to keep expanding the threshold of relic weapon, why are you temporary adding a weapon that's stronger than the relic.
    It sounds counter productive, even if they're trying to add weapons for people who won't be able to expand their horizons and deal with the end-game content to get the best relic weapon in game, why do they prioritize raising weapons to ilv95 unless they have a plan of merging ilv95 allagan with relic+1 further on.
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    Valanthe Liadon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldehido View Post
    Now I'm wondering. If SE are adding weapons that are going to be stronger than Relic Weapons, won't that defeat the purpose of all the story and work behind the quest of getting a relic weapon then making it +1. Even SE is going to keep expanding the threshold of relic weapon, why are you temporary adding a weapon that's stronger than the relic.
    It sounds counter productive, even if they're trying to add weapons for people who won't be able to expand their horizons and deal with the end-game content to get the best relic weapon in game, why do they prioritize raising weapons to ilv95 unless they have a plan of merging ilv95 allagan with relic+1 further on.
    Look at it as "you need your +1 to complete Coil" and it makes a lot more sense.
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    Player Reiterpallasch's Avatar
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    Arya Stark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldehido View Post
    If SE are adding weapons that are going to be stronger than Relic Weapons, won't that defeat the purpose of all the story and work behind the quest of getting a relic weapon then making it +1.
    Relic weapons can be done in under 2 hours if you exclude the 900 tomes.

    Allagan weapons on the other hand require significantly more effort. On top of needing to down T5, there's ye olde RNG to deal with each week. Why shouldn't they be better for a bit?
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    To me this is kind of the "My character is now perfect, nothing else can be better" defense.

    Like someone else said, having a relic weapon is pretty much a prerequisite for coil to begin with.

    Granted, love it or hate it, the relic quest isn't really that formidable. Most people attribute problems with Titan to lag or just impatient players. So I think a consensus would say he isn't THAT difficult.

    So what's wrong with having something to shoot for? Do you really want to be done with the game already?

    Personally, the idea of a +7 relic weapon is a bit silly. To put it this way, the Allagans did some pretty awful things to Bahamut. He was the one that brought about the apocalypse so, if they have some little trinket that makes stuff dead, I wants it.
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    Because of the odds of finishing Turn 5 (if you can even get a group there) and getting your weapon drop can take just as long or even longer than getting a relic +1
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    Yagyu Hobo
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    They had to make a change because too many people acquired relics via people selling Titan HM runs. They've even stated something along the lines of (paraphrasing) "Relic weapons have become too commonplace"
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    I think they need to add more chapters to the relic to make it stronger. To use the excuse that its too easy to get or common is a dev problem... If they didn't make it "easy" there wouldn't be a problem. So when these new weapons become common and they will, what they going to say then?
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    Player Skyl1n3's Avatar
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    They went to +2 in FFXI so I have no doubt they'll add in +2 for Relics, maybe even beyond or other optional further upgrades for Relics.

    Maybe there'll be completely different "legendary" weapons all-together that will require a way longer quest-chain that *might* keep the progression raiders who hate the fact that they aren't special snowflakes anymore from bitching because it'll be too easy for everyone else besides themselves to get it... who knows.
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    I don't feel like looking through the letter post until they release the summary for a quote.

    But one of the questions was. Is there a reason story/relic reason for extreme primals to be in the game? And they said there was, So a way to +2 the Relic might already be in the 2.1 update. Which might make the Buffed Allagan weapons and Relic +2 weapons about equal.
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    Hanemakikaze Shadowmourne
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    The whole point of buffing Allagan weapons was so relic was not on par with them because they are so "noob friendly" or extremely easy to obtain, if you like. Compared to needing to beat turn 5. So I doubt it.
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