Relic weapon rant.

[Zezlar]

Obtaining a AF Weapon+1 isn't that hard to obtain. As far as current content goes, obtaining an Allagan weapon is infinitely tougher. Why would you keep the Allagan weapon on the lower tier?

[cotti]

As most rants around, that was hilariously sad.

[Yamimarik]

I'm very glad they're going this route for Allagan. Yes "Relic" weapons for XIV are way too common place, it feels more like AF weapons back from FFXI. And now I actually wana strive to get the Allagan books for my SMN/SCH!

I agree with what some people in here are saying, yes I think they are more relevant to being AF weapons(FFXI)=Relic Weapons(FFXIV). And I do hope eventually we get the end weapon to end all weapons i.e. Excalibur/Aegis for PLDs, Nirvana for SMNs, Gugnir for DRGs, etc etc.

Just my two gil :3

[Vindicate]

Obtaining a AF Weapon+1 isn't that hard to obtain. As far as current content goes, obtaining an Allagan weapon is infinitely tougher. Why would you keep the Allagan weapon on the lower tier?

Why is an Allagan Weapon infinitely tougher? The first players running around with Ifrit Weapon didnt have it easier to beat Garuda and Titan and to get the Relic finally, sure it was in fact a bit simpler cause the mechanics of hardmode primals is the same rotation all over again, but its no big of a difference with T5, once you manage a kill, it wont be that hard on the later kills anymore ^^

[Tribunus]

Why is an Allagan Weapon infinitely tougher? The first players running around with Ifrit Weapon didnt have it easier to beat Garuda and Titan and to get the Relic finally, sure it was in fact a bit simpler cause the mechanics of hardmode primals is the same rotation all over again, but its no big of a difference with T5, once you manage a kill, it wont be that hard on the later kills anymore ^^

Ifrit and Garuda can be done in AF, Titan can be done in dungeon gear and a few bits of DL (you simply need the HP) whereas Coil requires atleast DL/Relic to start and requiring more ilvl90 pieces the further you go. Allagan weapons are far tougher and time consuming to get not to mention you can get your relic+1 by simply running WP/AK for three weeks, and lets not forget by that point you outgear WP/AK by quite a margin.

[juniglee]

*Looks at all the complaining about lack of progression in these forums*

*Looks at this thread which complains about wanting progression on gear*

I no understand

[Aenarion]

Why is an Allagan Weapon infinitely tougher? The first players running around with Ifrit Weapon didnt have it easier to beat Garuda and Titan and to get the Relic finally, sure it was in fact a bit simpler cause the mechanics of hardmode primals is the same rotation all over again, but its no big of a difference with T5, once you manage a kill, it wont be that hard on the later kills anymore ^^

I don't really care eitherway, but...

Look at how many people are running around with Allagan weapons, and then how many are running around with relics, and then look at what you just wrote and see if something's not right.

[Vindicate]

I don't really care eitherway, but...

Look at how many people are running around with Allagan weapons, and then how many are running around with relics, and then look at what you just wrote and see if something's not right.

Of course, set BC T5 to the Titan difficulty and people selling the necessary Twintania Kills, then I'd say 50/50, otherwise, its not really accurate since the timeline is Titan HM -> BC T1 till 5
Doesnt say much about a difficulty, and I dont count the way on getting till there, altough for some people without an FC, getting the first pair of Relic Weapons serverwide was more time consuming than running with a group T1 till T5 and getting a kill.
That a Relic weapon is as common as snow in Coerthas is more to the thanks of Titankill-sellers and the people helping others with it, but as it is with Relics, so it will with Twintania Weapons, sooner or later ofc, once more people are weekly farming it.

And lets not forget for how long Twintania was bugged and T5 closed aswell, if this wouldnt happen, there would be by far more Weapons aswell, if RNG is no beeeetch

[Pellegri]

Of course, set BC T5 to the Titan difficulty and people selling the necessary Twintania Kills, then I'd say 50/50, otherwise, its not really accurate since the timeline is Titan HM -> BC T1 till 5
Doesnt say much about a difficulty, and I dont count the way on getting till there, altough for some people without an FC, getting the first pair of Relic Weapons serverwide was more time consuming than running with a group T1 till T5 and getting a kill.
That a Relic weapon is as common as snow in Coerthas is more to the thanks of Titankill-sellers and the people helping others with it, but as it is with Relics, so it will with Twintania Weapons, sooner or later ofc, once more people are weekly farming it.

And lets not forget for how long Twintania was bugged and T5 closed aswell, if this wouldnt happen, there would be by far more Weapons aswell, if RNG is no beeeetch

I didn't know the first titan kills took 2-3 months to happen and t5 wasn't done till right after? Just because it takes a derp that long to obtain their weapon doesn't mean it was hard to get, it means they didn't look around enough to get a decent group or they just flat out sucked(or you know, they could have actually joined a fc instead of freeballing). The best guild in the world took 2 months to prepare for this fight and get the gear they needed to do it. The fight actually didn't have any of it's core mechanics bugged other than some exploits, however the mechanics they did change had zero room for error which is why up till that point only a single guild had downed it.

No twin weapons will not be as common as relic weapons, because by the time they nerf the fight to make it possible to carry someone(2.2) no one will even care about ilvl 95 weapons since 2.2 will have even better ones from 6-10 in coil and even possibly from myth. It is not possible to carry people through the fight currently without that 8th player pulling their weight and even then if they somehow suck compared to everyone else it still requires a fair amount of rng with mechanics and even more so with loot.

[Arkista]

I really hope to see some sort FFXI Mythic weapon equivalent. I heard when I first started playing that at some point SE would add Legendary Weapons. So maybe they could and those would be really badass and very hard to obtain.