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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    Unchained doesn't affect Inner Beast.
    Duh?
    I cannot see the point of this part of your response.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    It's just crit, Berserk and STR pot. No I don't consider that average.
    In order to crit for 1184, you would need to hit for 784 using INner beast.
    This is simply IMPOSSIBLE to do in full tank gear and Bravura +1.

    It is pretty rare that I don't have either STR potion or Berserk for Inner Beast. I would say my 'average' Inner Beast is buffed in one way or another.[/QUOTE]

    Do you...not read the responses made to you or something? Or do you hope that by restating yourself it will magically make your originally statement disappear?
    Everyone has proven your statment as false by testing it themselves using strength potions and heavy strength gear.
    People who took the time to give themselves better stats than you have proven your statement as false, so why keep up the charade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    Using your Wrath stacks will heal you for anywhere between 1k and up to 4k (my highest so far is 3.7k and I average 1.8-2k without Berserk
    Your assertion btw.
    Which means critting for 1183, which is not possible.
    You average meaning at least a 600 hit minimum, which is also not possible unless it were a crit, which blows your earlier statement of a 4k heal to heal.

    Edit: Also you never posted a picture of a 1183 INner beast hit. Ever.
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    Last edited by Leiron; 11-26-2013 at 02:56 AM.

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    If you honestly think that WAR is somehow going to suffer from catastrophic identity failure, it's only because you have a laughably warped view of how WAR actually plays.
    Hello hostility, how are you doing today?
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    Duh?
    Your assertion btw.
    Which means critting for 1183, which is not possible.

    Edit: Also you never posted a picture of a 1183 INner beast hit. Ever.
    He did actually, the hit was for 1194 using Zerk + STR Pot + DPS Accessories. It's the second post on the page he linked. Though his claims that he averages non crit, non buffed, 1.8-2k IBs while having an 8k health pool is just silliness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    Hello hostility, how are you doing today?
    Truth bites.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paikis View Post
    It is pretty rare that I don't have either STR potion or Berserk for Inner Beast. I would say my 'average' Inner Beast is buffed in one way or another.
    So...You IB on average once every 1-1.5 min? How is that not holding onto wrath and what boss has spike damage mechanics on a 1 min timer that allows IB to function so reliably as a staple recovery tool? A skill that works properly 50% of the time is not a skill a tank wants, ever.
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    Last edited by Phreak; 11-26-2013 at 04:03 AM.

  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    He did actually, the hit was for 1194 using Zerk + STR Pot + DPS Accessories. It's the second post on the page he linked. Though his claims that he averages non crit, non buffed, 1.8-2k IBs while having an 8k health pool is just silliness.
    It's Storms Eye, not Inner Beast. It's also Marauder with Blood for Blood and Raging Strikes on as well. The screen shot is totally irrelevant.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    Trolls bite.
    Fixed that for you.

    //EDIT: For clarity,

    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    In order to crit for 1184, you would need to hit for 784 using INner beast.
    This is simply IMPOSSIBLE to do in full tank gear and Bravura +1.
    You can hit 1200 IB, at least in theory. It's far from reliable one way or the other (requires crit and berserk and maim and storm's eye). You need to hit roughly 1.42 damage per potency, which requires a ton of strength and a relic+1 but is technically possible.

    I'll have to look into whether it's possible without a pot, but if it is, it would certainly require bonus points in strength.
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    Last edited by Gamemako; 11-26-2013 at 04:18 AM.

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Fixed that for you.
    You only think I'm a troll because I point out how monumentally wrong you are all the time, especially when you try to correct me and just get it even more wrong.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZDamned View Post
    It's Storms Eye, not Inner Beast. It's also Marauder with Blood for Blood and Raging Strikes on as well. The screen shot is totally irrelevant.
    What the fuck? Did you just read the first sentence and stop? The second post clearly shows a screen of Paikis IBing a dummy for 1194 with inner beast and his comment on how he did it with Zerk + Crit + STR Potion + DPS accesories, just like I said.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Fixed that for you.

    You can hit 1200 IB, at least in theory. It's far from reliable one way or the other (requires crit and berserk and maim and storm's eye). You need to hit roughly 1.42 damage per potency, which requires a ton of strength and a relic+1 but is technically possible.
    EDIT: My appolgies I misinterpreted the reason for quoting me, I assumed it was me when in turn it was the quote of the quoted's quoter's quote.
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    Last edited by Phreak; 11-26-2013 at 04:14 AM.

  9. 11-26-2013 04:06 AM
    Reason
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  10. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    He did actually, the hit was for 1194 using Zerk + STR Pot + DPS Accessories. It's the second post on the page he linked. Though his claims that he averages non crit, non buffed, 1.8-2k IBs while having an 8k health pool is just silliness.
    Sonnuva gun.
    All right i'll retract my statement, but I still find it simply impossible to pull off while being in pure Fending gear/Vit allocation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    What the fuck? Did you just read the first sentence and stop? The second post clearly shows a screen of Paikis IBing a dummy for 1194 with inner beast and his comment on how he did it with Zerk + Crit + STR Potion + DPS accesories, just like I said.
    Sorry, I had another post by him in mind when I read your 2nd sentence. He blatantly makes so many false statements, it's confusing which one is being de-bunked. I thought you were specifically talking about the Storms eye Screen Shot, as well as his recent post mentioning dealing damage as a Marauder in Warrior gear some how....
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